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what i ment is there is only one jamie carragher, yes i would pick carragher over agger any day of the week although jamie is just a traditionel defender, but his organisation and his fight attitude and work rate is just fantastic, dann however sometimes reminds of a better version of soto he has the height, but no pace and dosn't fly in for the 50/50 tackles.


would you ever play for a bigger club, who's bigger then liverpool


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His stats are really impressive though, when Dann was out for half a season, the let in much more goals. Dann is a lot better than Soto, and is a lot more like Carra IMO.

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Dann too slow to partner carra tho

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Dann has a reasonable speed, he's not that slow. Plus he's a monster of a defender. Hypia was super slow, but much like Hypia, Dann is good a reading the game.

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Dann is slower than the average defender, you are right he has a good reading of the game, something that defenders like Terry rely on, but Dann's reading of the game is nowhere near good enough to make up for lack of pace in order to be a 1st 11 centre back for liverpool.

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He's a very good reader of the game. They did a lot better with him in the team for a full season. Coming 9th in the leave, and conceding the 9th least goals out of everyone, letting in only 5 more than 4th place, and having the 3rd highest amount of clean sheets. Then suddenly when he injured for half a season and they're relegated, with arguably a better squad.

Not saying it's because Dann was out, but it's a interesting thought. They let in 20 more goals that season, when he was out too.

Not saying he's the best either, but he would improve the squad. Huth, Shawcross or Dawson would be good for me too.

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Yeah he would improve the squad, but remember they lost both of their centre backs for a while and when the other came back he was obviously coming back from injury. I think that being a key reason for defence being worse. They also tried to play a more attacking game and score more goals (mostly failing). Obviously loosing a first choice cb is gonna make ur defence weaker, but I don't think their defensive record is so largely down to Dann. they lost their other CB too

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Yeah true. Forgot about Johnson. Tbh, I would like to get Dann and Shawcross. And sell Soto (like him, but it's time to move forward) and Agger (who is brilliant, but is like glass). I wish agger was fit, but he just seems to be getting worse. If we got 2 quality CB's in, then we would have them, plus Carra and Skrtel, then as Carra gets older, Kelly can slot in.

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I know this gets said every season but I would really like agger to get another season and I think he will, because he is such a talent. If this is the season he puts injury behind him then we could miss out on a great player if we sold him now. Shawcross a touch reckless for me. But if we continue to buy proven PL then the players you have outlined are the best value for money. I'd be happy to take a punt on a foreigner though.

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