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Originally Posted By: thekop_swede
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ill say it again. its the pace of the premiership that kills him. he's great in italy, great in pre season, but cant handle the prem.


maybe so, but on the other hand he never got a real chance the last time around and he did step up his game towards the end of 09/10.

imo he could be a great asset when we play the lesser teams. he's got that ability to unlock defences.


I'm more inclined to agree with you than woth some of the other 'expert' comments in here.

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the FACT remains that he has proved himself on some stages and fallen well short on others, namely the premiership. id love him to be able to bring hios game to england, but id be wary about keeping him on his form on games against foreign opposition when his problem lies against english opposition.

dont need to be an expert to see that.


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Originally Posted By: kemlyn road red
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ill say it again. its the pace of the premiership that kills him. he's great in italy, great in pre season, but cant handle the prem.
I agree the Premiership is to physical for a pretty boy like him, he needs to grow a set before he can even be considered, tonites game was just his level anyone who says otherwise is just kidding themselves unfortunately.


He came on and immediately unleashed 2 great efforts on goal, and delivered 2 great corners for the 2 goals, all within a few minutes of his introduction. What has that got to do with him not being able to cope with the physical nature of the Premiership??

Now, i'm not disagreeing with you on the 'physical' side of things, and felt in his season with us, he struggled with that - but that being said, he was struggling coming back from a long term injury back then. Regardless, what he showed today was ability. He possesses that ability with the ball at his feet, that has nothing to do with his physical nature.


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Dya know summat? I think I'd rather wait and see what Kenny, you know, the man in charge with ALL the facts in front of him, has to say before making any rash comments in here about Aquaman.


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its not the physicality as much as it is the speed of the game and the pressure on you when you are on the ball. if aqua gets 4-5 seconds to get the head up he's pretty dangerous, but under pressure he gets caught out too much. the game moves too fast for him.


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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
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ill say it again. its the pace of the premiership that kills him. he's great in italy, great in pre season, but cant handle the prem.
I agree the Premiership is to physical for a pretty boy like him, he needs to grow a set before he can even be considered, tonites game was just his level anyone who says otherwise is just kidding themselves unfortunately.


He came on and immediately unleashed 2 great efforts on goal, and delivered 2 great corners for the 2 goals, all within a few minutes of his introduction. What has that got to do with him not being able to cope with the physical nature of the Premiership??

Now, i'm not disagreeing with you on the 'physical' side of things, and felt in his season with us, he struggled with that - but that being said, he was struggling coming back from a long term injury back then. Regardless, what he showed today was ability. He possesses that ability with the ball at his feet, that has nothing to do with his physical nature.
put the games he has played in pre season in persepective , the teams in asia are no better than good semi pro saturday teams , and valeranga are like a lower championship or league one team .

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: kemlyn road red
Originally Posted By: flames
ill say it again. its the pace of the premiership that kills him. he's great in italy, great in pre season, but cant handle the prem.
I agree the Premiership is to physical for a pretty boy like him, he needs to grow a set before he can even be considered, tonites game was just his level anyone who says otherwise is just kidding themselves unfortunately.


He came on and immediately unleashed 2 great efforts on goal, and delivered 2 great corners for the 2 goals, all within a few minutes of his introduction. What has that got to do with him not being able to cope with the physical nature of the Premiership??

Now, i'm not disagreeing with you on the 'physical' side of things, and felt in his season with us, he struggled with that - but that being said, he was struggling coming back from a long term injury back then. Regardless, what he showed today was ability. He possesses that ability with the ball at his feet, that has nothing to do with his physical nature.
put the games he has played in pre season in persepective , the teams in asia are no better than good semi pro saturday teams , and valeranga are like a lower championship or league one team .


He had a good season in Italy with Juve, didn't he? Is the Italian League shi*te now too? (and before anyone says it, i know it isn't as fast or as physical as the PL)


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you know the italian league isnt what it was years ago , if you think back to last seasaon italy's 3rd best team napoli could beat liverpool over 2 games when liverpool were down in the dumps , so i would take what he did in italy with a pinch of salt .

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
you know the italian league isnt what it was years ago , if you think back to last seasaon italy's 3rd best team napoli could beat liverpool over 2 games when liverpool were down in the dumps , so i would take what he did in italy with a pinch of salt .


This time 12 months ago, weren't Inter Milan reigning European Champions?


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