its not the actual result which is important in pre season , its the manner of the defeat's and the very very bad display's which is dissappointing to say the least , and more frightening is how bad the squad still is ok we all know when all fit and avaliable the first 11 and the first teamer who make up the squad are on there day a good team , but the rest oh dear awful and thats being kind , the degen's the insua's ETC scary