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Originally Posted By: House
you could add maxi, spearing, skrtel, doni to that


Yeah!

I'll make a full list now that You gave me inspiration:

First the outs:
Agger (Injury prone)
Aquilani
Aurelio
Cole
Degen
Doni
El Zhar
Insua
Jones
Jovanovic
Kyrgiakos
Ngog
Poulsen
Maxi
Shelvey
Skrtel
Spearing
Wilson

This leaves us with the following hollow/shallow squad:
Adam
Amoo
Ayala
Carragher
Carroll
Coady
Downing
Eccleston
Flanagan
Gerrard
Hansen
Henderson
Ince
Johnson
Kelly
Kuyt
Leiva
Meireles
Pacheco
Reina
Robinson
Sterling
Suarez
Suso
Wisdom


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Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Originally Posted By: House
you could add maxi, spearing, skrtel, doni to that


Yeah!

I'll make a full list now that You gave me inspiration:

First the outs:
Agger (Injury prone)
Aquilani
Aurelio
Cole
Degen
Doni
El Zhar
Insua
Jones
Jovanovic
Kyrgiakos
Ngog
Poulsen
Maxi
Shelvey
Skrtel
Spearing
Wilson

This leaves us with the following hollow/shallow squad:
Adam
Amoo
Ayala
Carragher
Carroll
Coady
Downing
Eccleston
Flanagan
Gerrard
Hansen
Henderson
Ince
Johnson
Kelly
Kuyt
Leiva
Meireles
Pacheco
Reina
Robinson
Sterling
Suarez
Suso
Wisdom


OMG. I wanna hibernate for at least a year now! sick



whats wrong with shelvey ?

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Originally Posted By: House
Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
City haven't spent Monsors millions well and now have a massive problem with offloading players on huge contracts determined to run them down at City rather than ply their trade elsewhere for much less remuneration


Yeah, and where have we seen that happen before.....?

Just a reminder: Aquilani, Cole, Degen, El Zhar, Insua, Jovanovic, Kyrgiakos, NGog and Poulsen!


you could add maxi, spearing, skrtel, doni to that


Spearing who was offered a new contract last season because dalglish wanted to keep him. Yeah I'm sure he is trying to offload him and having dificulty... crazy must try to think more smile

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Originally Posted By: mybloodisred
Originally Posted By: House
Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
City haven't spent Monsors millions well and now have a massive problem with offloading players on huge contracts determined to run them down at City rather than ply their trade elsewhere for much less remuneration


Yeah, and where have we seen that happen before.....?

Just a reminder: Aquilani, Cole, Degen, El Zhar, Insua, Jovanovic, Kyrgiakos, NGog and Poulsen!


you could add maxi, spearing, skrtel, doni to that


Spearing who was offered a new contract last season because dalglish wanted to keep him. Yeah I'm sure he is trying to offload him and having dificulty... crazy must try to think more smile


did i say we were trying to sell spearing? i dont think we're trying to sell any of the 4 players i mentioned, i think we should be. must try and read more, and not be a condescending pr!ck smile

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Like Wakka said, who the fck cares, we are not Man city

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum

I think you've completely missed the point of Man City's spending. It's that they pay massive wages, massive transfer fees, for players that don't even get a game.



That was my point - and one that's been completely missed by everyone whose posted except for your good self


Originally Posted By: Rafarendum

As for people that you include like Maxi, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Aurelio etc, they all played a fair amount of games for us.


I can't undetrstand why people are naming these players. They are not excellenyt but anmy means but they are all good enough squad players.

Skrtel started every single game in the league for us last season and whilst I personally don't think he's quite good enough to be in the starting 11, to compare him to the players Man City have spent zillions on is ludicrous

Same with Maxi. He's not brilliant but the goals he sacored last season show that he's someone who would be useful to have on the bench

It not's even remotely close to the Man City situation

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Originally Posted By: Maddog
Originally Posted By: van Gogh

Yeah, and where have we seen that happen before.....?

Just a reminder: Aquilani, Cole, Degen, El Zhar, Insua, Jovanovic, Kyrgiakos, NGog and Poulsen!


Man people have short memories! The reason we signed Cole and Jova on high contracts is because we couldn't go and sign many others that we actually had to pay other clubs for. Aqua was purchased with the Alonso money and was a clear error in value from Rafa. Kyriagkos I don't believe would be on massive wages pure speculation. El Zhar, Degen and Insua have always been squad players with the hope they would develop into first teamers .... unfortunately it didn't work out and they don't want to take a pay cut. I am just grateful that we have new owners who seem have a business plan in place for the future. Sign the best young talent available and build a squad for the next 10 years.
You see I dont think signing players for the future is in our best interests at this present time in our History. This season is make or break for me if we fail to qualify for the Champions league I dont see us ever getting back in as the teams ahead will move even further away and for that reason I think we needed to sign players who were the finished article and could do a job straight away.
I think Clubs like United, Chelsea and Arsenal are already well established in the top four and have the luxury to be able to add a few younger players with potential into the team gradualy as there teams are in place and good enough to maintain the top four.
We had serious money in the last 7 months and for me apart from Suarez I think that money could of been invested in the team better, the players signed dont look like they represent good value for money as we speak.
Massive season ahead for us and we need to have our fingers crossed that these signings hit the ground running, if they dont I think it will be the end of top four in the future, the end of Dalglish yet again for not bringing in a return on the the yanks money they gave him and also back to the drawing board for a new manager and this team of the likes of Gerrard, Carragher, Kuyt e.t.c being broken up.

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This is the most important season in our history. Thats something often said but this time its correct. NS is correct there will be no way back if we don't get CL league football for next year.


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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
I can't undetrstand why people are naming these players. They are not excellenyt but anmy means but they are all good enough squad players.

Skrtel started every single game in the league for us last season and whilst I personally don't think he's quite good enough to be in the starting 11, to compare him to the players Man City have spent zillions on is ludicrous

Same with Maxi. He's not brilliant but the goals he sacored last season show that he's someone who would be useful to have on the bench

It not's even remotely close to the Man City situation


Completely agree. Very puzzling - and even more puzzling that people are giving out about the likes of Jay Spearing - who came in and did a superb job for us near the end of last season, when needed, and also a few people naming Doni as a player we need to offload because he's on high wages, and he's only just joined us - what the hell is that all about?! confused


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like wakka said, who gives a flying fck

But

whilst the subject is here, city are buying all these players with no idea how there going to fit into a system. Least when chelsea went out and d one it they brought mourinho in the 2nd season of their revolution and he had an idea what he was going to do.

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