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you were not defending yourself - clearly you were making yourself out to be a better fan than the rest of us (along with your attempt at a putdown of me for supporting liverpool rather than a team which never even existed when i was born as it was defunct at that time) ...... i never chose to support liverpool - i was given no choice unless i wanted to sleep on the streets as my mother would have thrown me out if i dared to suggest the idea of another team ....... so no i didn't choose to support liverpool and your racist blinkered views and claims of being a true fan are utter crap

i am so glad i am not like you - if you are an example of what it is like to be from the city itself then i am glad i am from bootle instead ..... i would be ashamed to be like you

So will you be supporting the team on saturday or will you be one of these whingers that gives out cos we are not five up at half time? No doubt i will have a few sensless words to say from my armchair. Liverpool Football Club does not revolve around the city. Those days are gone my friend

Them days may be gone for you but for most in the City we still live in hope that the Liverpool identity of the Club will one day return, it may seem highly unlikely at present the way things are but I have no doubt if the team ever drops down to mid table level all these OOT, fair weather fans who have attatched themselves to the club because of success will probably drop off which will leave the true local fan to pick up the peices like we all did after Hysel.

At last, not a truer word spoken from you that you admit your from the town of Bootle and not the City Of Liverpool, well done.

I think what you have said about OOT and fair weather fans is uncalled for. What makes you think no OOT and even overseas Liverpool fan felt heartache over Heysel, despair when Souness was managing the team, and the frustration of watching Villa walk away with 3 points barely 1 month ago?

So many fans, even OOT fans, have declared their support for the team through good times and bad, yet you are damning us by calling us "glory hunters"? We are NOT Chelsea or Man City Fans!

Get with the times man. Its no longer viable to segregate between local and outside support. Its a worldwide game and weather you choose to accept it or not, we have a worldwide following. Admittedly i have got the hump a few times before when i have been let down on tickets, only to see a few hundred scandanavians (no offence intended) walk through the turnstiles but you have to accept that without OOT'S like myself and many other thousands, we wouldnt be able to generate the global pull that we need. I fully accept that locals have a pain in the ar5e with people like us descending on your city every week and mopping up the tickets and maybe more should be given to local football clubs or something but please dont hate us cos we are not local

I have never said i dislike OOT fans as i have said previously they play an important part of our club, my gripe is that because of our success it has opened the floodgates to the point that local fans cant get tickets and i simply dont agree with that. I mentioned Hysel because that for me was the lowest point of our great football club, I attended that game and the amount of venom and abuse directed at the club and fans after that from the rest of the country will long live in my memory, everywhere we went after that we called scum. The point I am making about Hysel is that our average attendence at the time was 35,000 and was made up of nearly all local support, yes there where OOT fans but nowhere near as many as there is now, those fans stuck by the club in the dark days and are now pushed out in favour of OOT fans who come to the stadium and spend loads of money and thats what the club wants, locals wont do that, and this is where the problem lies. I was at Istanbul and it was an absolute disgrace the people who got tickets, Athens even worse, hardly any proper fans there local or OOT fans who regulary go, it was a freak show or a circus and this is where the club is going, if the new stadium is built it will be even worse, more hospitality, day trippers and jester hat wearers. I know nearly all Liverpool supporters now come from outside the City and I accept that, but what I wont accept is that they should be there ahead of local fans who the club belonged to well before OOT fans jumped on the Liverpool success bandwaggon.

I understand where you are coming from and i would feel the same if i suddenly found out that i cuuld no longer get a ticket for my beloved Shamrock Rovers(Dublin). I am too young to remember Hysel and probably even Hillsborough so i wont even insult your intelligence by trying to pretend i know how it felt, but for me, I started going in 1991 and looking back on it now, they were my darkest days and it was hard to take. Football wise, the next few years were the lowest the club has been since we were last relegated. Im all for locals supporting their local teams to the point that i bring my 3 year old lad to see my local team so i know i would be pi55ed if i couldnt do that any more. But then again its not bloody likely that Rovers are going to be swamped with OOT'S any time soon

Originally Posted By: gedthered09

Originally Posted By: Growler

Originally Posted By: Injun Joe

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I feel i have to defend myself against [color:#FF0000]pr1cks like you, i am clearly putting my point across that I am not some KN0b head like you who just comes on forums and talks sh1te. Your right there are loads of fans like me and there are loads of fans who feel exactly the same way with the way the club is. I could just bury my head in the sand and pretend the club is on the verge of greatness like some Kn0b heads like you are doing but i choose to stand up against whats going on and voice my opinion no matter who i upset or how controversial, if you dont like it then tough. [/quote]

Do you really have to resort to personal insults like that? Shows a total lack of intelligence and utter selfishness.
You disgust me, and the sooner we have an 'ignore button' to activate against you and your friend Stuey the better.