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Originally Posted By: quagmire
i take some of your points on board. European pedigree means jack [oops] to top players and so on but you did previously say that steven gerrard is in danger of not winning any major medals. there is only one major medal that he has not won. Granted its the one he really wants. Get off the "kids" back. i think your the one that needs to talk more grown up
I said Gerrard is in danger of ending up like Alan Shearer with one major medal in his career which is true, which is a shame because both of them play and played for Clubs that never provided there undobted talent with a platform they so richly deserved. What i have said makes sense what you say does'nt so it is you who needs to talk more grown up and let your head talk more than your heart.

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Originally Posted By: mekonggecko
Ah gedthegloryhunter, more wise words!
Thanks for that vote of confidence, I know I have my work cut out on here trying to educate these people but i will carry on for now and not abandon there obvious lack of intelligence as well as ignorance.

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Bayern do have a great player in Ribery but he was only a good player when he signed for them and i could'nt see him signing for them if it was now as he would go to Madrid, Barca, United, City or Chelsea. Liverpool are a big club now in name only unfortunately, we have stood still for 20 years and been overtaken by other clubs unfortunately, it's nearly a quarter of a century since we last won the league and Leeds United and Blackburn have won it more recently than we have. Times have changed and we have been left behind, we need to face the facts we are not the club we once were and thats not being negative thats living in the real world and being a realist.

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Originally Posted By: redryan
once again ged if, if, if, if and was there maybe a 5th if in there somewhere???

you say what does being a historic club get you? it gets respect around europe and a lot of players(david villa included) will have watched liverpool rule europe and want to play for the great club, same as torres. speaking of torres, when he scores a goal or when the TRUE liverpool fans chant his name as he gives his all for liverpool do you just sit silent as he is an out of towner?? dont think so....

we won a major trophy in 2006 and also the european cup in 2005, that doesnt really sound like 20 years ago does it?? think we should all just ignore this kid now...

So all the top stars like David Villa want to play for Benfica, Bayern Munich and Ajax now do they because they like Liverpool have a great European pedigree. You talk about 2006 being a major trophy so Fernando Torres will stay at the club will he if Liverpool this season miss out on the champions league and just win the F.A.Cup because in your eyes it's a major trophy and will David Villa be signing for the club because we won the F.A.Cup in 2006 the same one Portsmouth won against the mighty Cardiff City then. please if your going to say something makes sure it makes sense otherwise you will look even more like foolish than you obviously are, think might be better if we all just ignore this kid until he starts to talk a bit more grown up.


Oooohhh Ged how your tune has changed....if i remember correctly weren't you saying that the FA cup is trophy we should concentrate on because that is all we are capable of winning?? That and a few other local trophies!!!

Fact is that we pushed Untied for the title last season and have regularly been in the last 8 of the Champions League since Rafa has been at the club! Why would a player not want to come to our great club! Understand that we don't compete financially but that is not the managers fault but the sh1te owners that we have. They are the ones who don't give us the funds to spend on first choice signings!!!

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Originally Posted By: redryan
once again ged if, if, if, if and was there maybe a 5th if in there somewhere???

you say what does being a historic club get you? it gets respect around europe and a lot of players(david villa included) will have watched liverpool rule europe and want to play for the great club, same as torres. speaking of torres, when he scores a goal or when the TRUE liverpool fans chant his name as he gives his all for liverpool do you just sit silent as he is an out of towner?? dont think so....

we won a major trophy in 2006 and also the european cup in 2005, that doesnt really sound like 20 years ago does it?? think we should all just ignore this kid now...

So all the top stars like David Villa want to play for Benfica, Bayern Munich and Ajax now do they because they like Liverpool have a great European pedigree. You talk about 2006 being a major trophy so Fernando Torres will stay at the club will he if Liverpool this season miss out on the champions league and just win the F.A.Cup because in your eyes it's a major trophy and will David Villa be signing for the club because we won the F.A.Cup in 2006 the same one Portsmouth won against the mighty Cardiff City then. please if your going to say something makes sure it makes sense otherwise you will look even more like foolish than you obviously are, think might be better if we all just ignore this kid until he starts to talk a bit more grown up.


Oooohhh Ged how your tune has changed....if i remember correctly weren't you saying that the FA cup is trophy we should concentrate on because that is all we are capable of winning?? That and a few other local trophies!!!

Fact is that we pushed Untied for the title last season and have regularly been in the last 8 of the Champions League since Rafa has been at the club! Why would a player not want to come to our great club! Understand that we don't compete financially but that is not the managers fault but the sh1te owners that we have. They are the ones who don't give us the funds to spend on first choice signings!!!
You cant lay everything at the door of the owners, having an incompetent manager is as much of the blame as them. For me Liverpool Football Club is no longer big enough to win the English Premier League United and Chelsea are the main clubs in this country now and in the next couple of years will soon be joined by Manchester City. My opinion about the F.A.Cup is that given the way things are I think a good season for us is to fibnish in the top four, last 8 of the champions league and to win the F.A.Cup would be a really good season for us and thats why i cant understand why the waiter does'nt take our only realistic chance of silverware each season serious. You cant tell me that we as Liverpool fans were not a little bit jelous of our neighbours Everton having a great day out at wembley, alrite they never won it but surely it's wrong for a club like ours never to go to the new wembley. I personaly dont think the F.A.Cup carries any weight but what it does do is provide a fantastic day out for the fans and gives us something to look forward to seeing as we no longer have any chance of winning leagues no more. Liverpool's situation in winning the league is exactly the same as Hearts or Aberdeen winning the Scottish league ahead of the old firm as much as we want it it simply is never going to happen, money has changed the game forever and we have missed the boat unfortunatelly and thats why we have to make the best of what we have.

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