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Maybe I'm being naieve but I assumed we were all LFC supporters on here. Seems to me some people have their own personal agendas and can't wait to see Kenny fail so they can come back on here and say I TOLD YOU SO, HOW CLEVER AM I.
We will not become world beaters overnight, but we are moving in the right direction under a manager who the players clearly believe in.
By all means indulge in healthy debate but dont rip our manager and team to shreds before the season has even started.

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Maybe I'm being naieve but I assumed we were all LFC supporters on here. Seems to me some people have their own personal agendas and can't wait to see Kenny fail so they can come back on here and say I TOLD YOU SO, HOW CLEVER AM I.
We will not become world beaters overnight, but we are moving in the right direction under a manager who the players clearly believe in.
By all means indulge in healthy debate but dont rip our manager and team to shreds before the season has even started.
Thats not the idea though, the idea is if things dont work out ar the start of the season after spending 100 million pound then he should quite rightly be ripped to shreds like what happend to the previous manager, he should not be protected because of what he done 20 odd years ago, fairs fair, no sentiment should be involved unlike his appointment. If he succeeds then everything is fine but if not he carries the can.

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Kenny will naturally be given more time RED NS because of his past whether you like it or not. He is part of Liverpool's history, the fans love him, the fans will forgive him for his mistakes unlike a Manager who was an outsider and started getting under the fans skin after a few games.


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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Maybe I'm being naieve but I assumed we were all LFC supporters on here. Seems to me some people have their own personal agendas and can't wait to see Kenny fail so they can come back on here and say I TOLD YOU SO, HOW CLEVER AM I.
We will not become world beaters overnight, but we are moving in the right direction under a manager who the players clearly believe in.
By all means indulge in healthy debate but dont rip our manager and team to shreds before the season has even started.
Thats not the idea though, the idea is if things dont work out ar the start of the season after spending 100 million pound then he should quite rightly be ripped to shreds like what happend to the previous manager, he should not be protected because of what he done 20 odd years ago, fairs fair, no sentiment should be involved unlike his appointment. If he succeeds then everything is fine but if not he carries the can.
For someone who knows so much about Liverpool, you seem to lack understanding in some things. How you forget our history is beyond me.

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This thread is a warped incitement thread, before the season has even started and should be locked. What if arguements are a waste of time in anycase in my opinon ,but this one doesnt even present a what if the new manager does well side. You may as well be writing grafiti on the wall NS, suprised this thread has run onto 10 pages but I guess you know how to irritate people and to get a response Still just as you have your right to your 'opinion' others have the right to tell you how ridiculous it is. Why there is a vendetta on this site against benitez I don't know, its so deeply felt that even a manager as bad for liverpool as hodgson was is described as a better one. I just don't get it. Why spend hours on a site to post negative, vindictive slanted stuff against managers that are long gone, do you do that in your day to day life as well? It's like there is a vendetta against lfc fans on here or something

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Well said, Armi!

I've been told to focus on things I can change, and let the rest be. Maybe that's a good thing to take after for some persons?

By the way: Red NS has something familiar about him (or her) - is it Reclaim? mad

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Maybe I'm being naieve but I assumed we were all LFC supporters on here. Seems to me some people have their own personal agendas and can't wait to see Kenny fail so they can come back on here and say I TOLD YOU SO, HOW CLEVER AM I.
We will not become world beaters overnight, but we are moving in the right direction under a manager who the players clearly believe in.
By all means indulge in healthy debate but dont rip our manager and team to shreds before the season has even started.
Thats not the idea though, the idea is if things dont work out ar the start of the season after spending 100 million pound then he should quite rightly be ripped to shreds like what happend to the previous manager, he should not be protected because of what he done 20 odd years ago, fairs fair, no sentiment should be involved unlike his appointment. If he succeeds then everything is fine but if not he carries the can.
For someone who knows so much about Liverpool, you seem to lack understanding in some things. How you forget our history is beyond me.
History is probably the main reason we find ourselves in the position we are today, 20 odd years without the league, the Club is held fast in sentiment about what happend in the past that it cant move on. You only have to look at the ridiculous posts of people on here saying Liverpool Football Club should be winning leagues because we done it a generation ago. Some of the posts to this thread back this up when they say Dalglish should be treated differently from other managers because of what he done in the past, sorry thats b0lloks, he should be treated the same and live by the same rules as the others. if he does a good job then fine if not he deserves to be slaughtered like the past ones. I dont know how old some of the people on here who are posting but I remember the end of Dalglish's reign from last time and it was'nt good, we were going backwards in a big way. Bad signings and squad neglect were playing a part before he walked out on us mid season, all I am saying is the previous Dalglish reign was'nt all a bowl of cherries.

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Originally Posted By: RED NS
Originally Posted By: Pops
Originally Posted By: RED NS
Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Maybe I'm being naieve but I assumed we were all LFC supporters on here. Seems to me some people have their own personal agendas and can't wait to see Kenny fail so they can come back on here and say I TOLD YOU SO, HOW CLEVER AM I.
We will not become world beaters overnight, but we are moving in the right direction under a manager who the players clearly believe in.
By all means indulge in healthy debate but dont rip our manager and team to shreds before the season has even started.
Thats not the idea though, the idea is if things dont work out ar the start of the season after spending 100 million pound then he should quite rightly be ripped to shreds like what happend to the previous manager, he should not be protected because of what he done 20 odd years ago, fairs fair, no sentiment should be involved unlike his appointment. If he succeeds then everything is fine but if not he carries the can.
For someone who knows so much about Liverpool, you seem to lack understanding in some things. How you forget our history is beyond me.
History is probably the main reason we find ourselves in the position we are today, 20 odd years without the league, the Club is held fast in sentiment about what happend in the past that it cant move on. You only have to look at the ridiculous posts of people on here saying Liverpool Football Club should be winning leagues because we done it a generation ago. Some of the posts to this thread back this up when they say Dalglish should be treated differently from other managers because of what he done in the past, sorry thats b0lloks, he should be treated the same and live by the same rules as the others. if he does a good job then fine if not he deserves to be slaughtered like the past ones. I dont know how old some of the people on here who are posting but I remember the end of Dalglish's reign from last time and it was'nt good, we were going backwards in a big way. Bad signings and squad neglect were playing a part before he walked out on us mid season, all I am saying is the previous Dalglish reign was'nt all a bowl of cherries.
For those who are not aware of this posters issues with Kenny,well its basically all down to this and unfortunately the little man just hasn't got over it.


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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Kenny will naturally be given more time RED NS because of his past whether you like it or not. He is part of Liverpool's history, the fans love him, the fans will forgive him for his mistakes unlike a Manager who was an outsider and started getting under the fans skin after a few games.
yes your right , but isnt that slightly wrong , red ns is totally correct sentiment has held the club back for years , it kept houllier in a job at least 1 season to many and the way mr benitez is held in some sort of cult/god like status is just unbelievable , and yes let go back to roy hodgson ok fair enough he wasnt the man for the job , but he was not welcomed one bit by the support of liverpool football club all this nonsense about "well i backed him until ........." is utter tripe the vast majority wanted benitez to stay forever or give it to dalglish who hadnt managed a club for over 10 years , hodgson's name was never sang by the kop , now i am not here to be an aplogist for roy hodgson in the end the right decision was made by the board , but i would like to see any manager have to put up with the problems he had in his first few months IE no pre season to speak of , the club in real danger of going under , he shadow of benitez everywhere he went players wanting to leave wwhich was not his fault what so ever and the support not even trying to back him , and now we have kenny dalglish our greatest player the legend who steadied the ship after most of the problems had gone and had a great run , but he has spent over 100 million pounds in 7 months maybne more to come and i think its very fair to think he will get it right , but i think its also fair to say if it goes wrong and its not right big quesation must be asked , and just because its dalglish he should not get a walk over , now 2 games like roy got was an utter disgrace like most new managers you see how it is at christmas evaulate then if it going well then fine and we all carry on , but i think most have to be very careful here and think about what is getting said IE last season the evertoians were claming this is our best squad since the 80's we will be top 4 no doubt well it wasnt and they struggled , now i am not saying liverpool will struggle or dalglish will fail far from it , liverpool and dalglish should do well but i think RED NS got it spot on it will not be a bowl of cherries it will be a season of transition 3 or 4 new players new coaching staff means that it can only be a season of transition and a season of transition is always a bit bumpy .

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