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At the start of each season our aim is always to win the league - although the way Rafa prioritised the Champions League in his first few seasons would make you think otherwise
How is what Evands saying 'negative' - he's just saying that it's ludicrous to expect us to climb for 6th to 1st after signing a couple of half-decent players (who hopefully Kenny can develop into very good players) - as so many of the youngsters (I presume) on this site are claiming
Chelsea are the great unknowns, Man City have had top players for a couple of seasons now yet still don't look convincing, and if Arsenal do lose Nasri and Fabregas then I see no reason why we can't finish above them
so it would be strange if the aim wasn't to win the league, but I think most fans with a brain would more than settle for 4th spot and getting back into the champions league
That's a realisticx and eminently achievable expectation
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Chelsea are an uncertainty at the moment. They have a new manager, who I think will be a big success, but because of the way Abramovich runs the club, he could be out of a job within months. Essien is out for most of the season, Torres Drogba and Anelka couldn't seem to play together at the end of the season, and the team has several aging players.
United also have a lot of aging players, with Scholes finished and Giggs at the end too, and most of their big players the wrong side of 30.
Man City aren't used to being in the Champions league, and that will affect them, just as it did to Tottenham last season. I don't think their manager is great, and the way we destroyed them under kenny, we're certainly capable of competing with them. My my, it's frightening to think you actualy believe what your saying, you have just written off every team which finished above us, according to you these teams are all weaker this coming season while we are the only team to improve, absolutely priceless.
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I agree with Rafarendum that we can compete with those clubs (Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea & Tottenham) but woulld add the proviso that it's still a big ask to expect us to finish higher than any of them - let alone all of them as some of the less credible posters on here seem certain will happen
Man Utd have already strengthened and whilst they were indeed the worst team to win the league for quite some time last year, it would be naive to think that Ferguson won't put this right. The other scary thing is that since 1992 Man utd have never finished lower than 3rd in the league
Man City don't convince, play sh*t football (dsespecially away from home where any team hads a chance of beating them) but they simplyt have too many good players not to do well - as Chelsaea did when abramovic first came in. And they haven't really properly started their summer spending yet. And whose to say the want-away Tevez won't chanhe his mind - again. I can't see too many clubs quing to pay his wages
Chelsea are the unknown team but what we do know is that like City they have unlimited money at their disposal to put right most of what went wrong last season. And whilst i hope and pray that Torres is as woeful as he was last season - or would be naive to expect that to bne the case. They still seem likely to be there or there abouts
As for Arsenal - if Nasri and fabregas do go - and currently i'd say that looks 50/50 - then they will definitely be weaker but Wenger's tram has looked weak before and yet they have NEVER finished outside the top 4
I know objective analysis and reasonable arguments don't go far on this forum, I still maintain it will be an acievement if we finish above any of these 4 teams
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Roy Evans believes Liverpool still trail their Premier League title rivals despite their summer signings – and claims the Anfield revolution will take longer than most fans expect.
Having taken over the Anfield reigns in January, Kenny Dalglish took the team to a sixth placed finish and just missed out on a Europa League place, which was taken by Tottenham.
But while impressed with the improvement, Evans has warned Reds fans not to expect a title challenge next term.
“Everyone expects Kenny to turn it around quickly but I think it’s going to take a little bit more time than the fans would like, but that’s the way it is”Roy Evans
Speaking to talkSPORT, Evans said: “When you’re at Liverpool you always expect silverware, that’s the name of the game and that’s what comes with the job.
“But I don’t think it’s going to be as easy as everybody thinks.
“Kenny has done a fantastic job and took them to a reasonable place last season. But in the last game of the season against Tottenham you saw we were short of a little bit of class against the better teams and it’s going to be tough.
“Everyone expects Kenny to turn it around quickly but I think it’s going to take a little bit more time than the fans would like, but that’s the way it is.
“We’re a fair bit behind the top four of five clubs.”
realistic and spot on Roy . Murph remember you gave me that minuscule lecture about pointless threads, does this count as one.
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How on earth could this be described as pointless?
A former manager (and one whose spent most of his career at the club, which more than entitles him to an opinion) comes out and says he thinks it's unlikely that Liverpool will immediately overtake those clubs who have finished abnover them over the last two seasons
It might be a view that doesn't chime with the majority of posters on here - but it's definitely news and warrants discussion
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How on earth could this be described as pointless?
A former manager (and one whose spent most of his career at the club, which more than entitles him to an opinion) comes out and says he thinks it's unlikely that Liverpool will immediately overtake those clubs who have finished abnover them over the last two seasons
It might be a view that doesn't chime with the majority of posters on here - but it's definitely news and warrants discussion Roy Evans is vastly more qualified to make comment of liverpool f.c. then anyone and he should be listened to , i think his comments are very very fair and realistic .
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Because I believe this thread is another one of those (there are many), that is aimed at "showing" that liverpool wont have a chance of challenging for the title or challenging for Europe
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Because I believe this thread is another one of those (there are many), that is aimed at "showing" that liverpool wont have a chance of challenging for the title or challenging for Europe Roy did not say liverpool cant challenge he just said which i think is completely fair that it unlikely and players and the team still needs work and luck , he is just telling the truth and being realistic and lets get it right Roy has no axe to grind he is liverpool through and through and i think he comments are very valid just as much as any ex manager or player more so in fact .
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Roy Evans believes Liverpool still trail their Premier League title rivals despite their summer signings – and claims the Anfield revolution will take longer than most fans expect.
Having taken over the Anfield reigns in January, Kenny Dalglish took the team to a sixth placed finish and just missed out on a Europa League place, which was taken by Tottenham.
But while impressed with the improvement, Evans has warned Reds fans not to expect a title challenge next term.
“Everyone expects Kenny to turn it around quickly but I think it’s going to take a little bit more time than the fans would like, but that’s the way it is”Roy Evans
Speaking to talkSPORT, Evans said: “When you’re at Liverpool you always expect silverware, that’s the name of the game and that’s what comes with the job.
“But I don’t think it’s going to be as easy as everybody thinks.
“Kenny has done a fantastic job and took them to a reasonable place last season. But in the last game of the season against Tottenham you saw we were short of a little bit of class against the better teams and it’s going to be tough.
“Everyone expects Kenny to turn it around quickly but I think it’s going to take a little bit more time than the fans would like, but that’s the way it is.
“We’re a fair bit behind the top four of five clubs.”
realistic and spot on Roy . Murph remember you gave me that minuscule lecture about pointless threads, does this count as one. Not really Aldo when you consider that we're talking about something a former manager of Liverpool has said.
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Roy Evans believes Liverpool still trail their Premier League title rivals despite their summer signings – and claims the Anfield revolution will take longer than most fans expect.
Having taken over the Anfield reigns in January, Kenny Dalglish took the team to a sixth placed finish and just missed out on a Europa League place, which was taken by Tottenham.
But while impressed with the improvement, Evans has warned Reds fans not to expect a title challenge next term.
“Everyone expects Kenny to turn it around quickly but I think it’s going to take a little bit more time than the fans would like, but that’s the way it is”Roy Evans
Speaking to talkSPORT, Evans said: “When you’re at Liverpool you always expect silverware, that’s the name of the game and that’s what comes with the job.
“But I don’t think it’s going to be as easy as everybody thinks.
“Kenny has done a fantastic job and took them to a reasonable place last season. But in the last game of the season against Tottenham you saw we were short of a little bit of class against the better teams and it’s going to be tough.
“Everyone expects Kenny to turn it around quickly but I think it’s going to take a little bit more time than the fans would like, but that’s the way it is.
“We’re a fair bit behind the top four of five clubs.”
realistic and spot on Roy . Murph remember you gave me that minuscule lecture about pointless threads, does this count as one. Not really Aldo when you consider that we're talking about something a former manager of Liverpool has said. just a bit of banter and sarcasm. 
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