KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum The power of Babel? Don't believe the hype!

look forward to the world cup is fine, im looking too, cos i got tickets to the final. But when you want jump ship from liverpool because you wont get a game, i question his commitment to LFC, and his focus is more on RAP.

I agree with most of the article but don't like the implication here.

Every single player that Benitez has signed has been signed because he wanted them. Rick Parry did not go out and select any player to play for Liverpool without being instructed to do so by the manager.

i just ignore things like that ricardo - brian reade is a big fan of rafa so he is bound to look for ways to put the blame for mistakes on others ....... its the same with all fergiescum's supporters in the media - they always twist things to make him look blameless etc ....... and of course harry redknapp is always made out to be some kind of saint in the media despite being the king of dodgy dealings, with the kind of business morals a used car salesman would cringe at!!

Ryan Babel was a gamble. he has so much talent, but his mentality is crap. he tried to make the best out of him, but he couldn't. he gained more weight, he became too lazy and too predictable.

look at Kuyt, he does not have half of Babel's talent, yet he usually over-performs. what if Babel has Kuyt's mentality?

Ryan Babel really needs to have good long look at himself and stop blaming others for his failures. he fails to work hard from what we here and when he does get presented with an opportunity he fails to show the slightest of interest in grabbing it with two hands!! He needs to go even if we do make a loss on him!

Every signing is a gamble. Alot of people even said that Torres wouldn't cope with the premier league before we signed him. The problem with Babel is that he can't be bothered. His point about looking at Yossi and looking at Babel is very true. Yossi has a bitch from time to time but when he is on the pitch, he just goes about showing Rafa was wrong to leave him on the bench. That's what Babel should do if he wants to start.

Cisse was Houllier's buy that was already arranged and in place. It wasn't a case of Parry or someone else choosing a player and forcing him upon the manager, it was still the case of the manager choosing the player. In that case it was Houllier. It just so happens he was gone by the time Cisse showed up.

So simply there were not others because Houllier had not arranged any others in advance.

The other example you gave was Robbie Keane. Benitez did want Keane. However it didn't work out for a few reasons. One reason was that he also wanted Barry as part of the same side, so not getting Barry reduced (in the eyes of Benitez) Keane's usefulness.

Every player we sign has been signed because the manager has said he wants them. That is the way things are done, always has been. You can doubt this if you like, but you would be totally incorrect to do so.

But we all know Keane is useless, why didnt rafa know this ?

We will have to disagree on that then... A good player fits into any team. That has to be the definition of a good player surely.

I agree Keane has looked a deecent player in the lowly teams he has played in, but that maybe due to him being their best player and the rest of the team playing to his strengths; which in my view, are few.

i don't see how you can say that a good player fits into any team - even maradona struggled in some sides but i think we can all agree that he was a good player

sometimes players have qualities that can't be utilised because of the system a team uses or the type of players around him ..... i do agree in keane's case that in his other teams they played to his strengths and brought the best out of him but we didn't ..... i don't see how you can say that makes him a poor player rather than one we failed to utilise to his best