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It amounts to 20 with add ons. The fee was agreed on, on Monday the structure of payment had to be agreed on before any announsements.
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along with the quality of players like pepe, gerrard, suarez and carroll will mean us finishing above arsenal, city and utd That's wishful thinking in the extreme I don't think City are a good team but they have quality throughout their squad It's unrealistic to expect us to compete with them - or United for that matter Although I think Adam and Downing are good signings, along with Henderson (who I don't think is a good signing) they asre noit the type of players that are going to take us from 6th to 1st if that's what your suggesting 4th - and overtaking arsenal and tottenham - is about the best we can hope for - amnd if we manage that i'll think kenny has done a good job no im not suggesting 1st as i think chelsea are gonna win the league i think we will finish 3rd/2nd. even if arsenal keep nasri and cesc i think we will be better than them, city aren't a team they have quality players throughout there team but they only have an okay manager and they play as bunch of individuals not a team. man utd are weaker without scholes and VDS. with kenny in charge and without any distractions i believe we can finish just behind chelsea. Talking about thinking we are better than Arsenal is complete madness, we are miles away and on a completely different level entirely. Do you realise Arsenal only went out of the league properly when they played and drew with us 17 April with only about half a dozen games of the season remaining thats how close they were, how many times in the past 20 odd years have you known us to be that close, I will go as far as to say all Arsenal need is decent goalie, commanding centre half and to keep Van Persie fit and they could quite possibly win the league. I am still trying to figure out on here if the people saying we are as good as Arsenal are just doing it for a laugh.
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along with the quality of players like pepe, gerrard, suarez and carroll will mean us finishing above arsenal, city and utd That's wishful thinking in the extreme I don't think City are a good team but they have quality throughout their squad It's unrealistic to expect us to compete with them - or United for that matter Although I think Adam and Downing are good signings, along with Henderson (who I don't think is a good signing) they asre noit the type of players that are going to take us from 6th to 1st if that's what your suggesting 4th - and overtaking arsenal and tottenham - is about the best we can hope for - amnd if we manage that i'll think kenny has done a good job no im not suggesting 1st as i think chelsea are gonna win the league i think we will finish 3rd/2nd. even if arsenal keep nasri and cesc i think we will be better than them, city aren't a team they have quality players throughout there team but they only have an okay manager and they play as bunch of individuals not a team. man utd are weaker without scholes and VDS. with kenny in charge and without any distractions i believe we can finish just behind chelsea. Talking about thinking we are better than Arsenal is complete madness, we are miles away and on a completely different level entirely. Do you realise Arsenal only went out of the league properly when they played and drew with us 17 April with only about half a dozen games of the season remaining thats how close they were, how many times in the past 20 odd years have you known us to be that close, I will go as far as to say all Arsenal need is decent goalie, commanding centre half and to keep Van Persie fit and they could quite possibly win the league. I am still trying to figure out on here if the people saying we are as good as Arsenal are just doing it for a laugh. arsenal aren't miles ahead of us in any way. to say they are couple of players away from winning the league is laughable, they are weak mentally, they have no leaders, they are weak in midfield, they have too many players that only turn up every now and again van persie, walcott, denilson, arshavin, all their defenders, a dodgy 'keeper, and a managee who is looking more and more like a man who has run out of ideas.
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arsenal aren't miles ahead of us in any way. to say they are couple of players away from winning the league is laughable, they are weak mentally, they have no leaders, they are weak in midfield, they have too many players that only turn up every now and again van persie, walcott, denilson, arshavin, all their defenders, a dodgy 'keeper, and a managee who is looking more and more like a man who has run out of ideas.
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Arsenal do lack some mental toughness, granted, but say were are on the same level as them is a complete joke. Arsenal finish in the top four every season, we have gone backwards every season for the last three straight away and the signings we have made up to now are not going to be getting us back in this coming season either. There is far too much blind faith on here, it's the same everytime we come to this stage just before the season starts and it always ends the same too with us out of the top four and United walking away with another title.
Last edited by RED NS; 14/07/11 08:36 PM.
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I agree with this to an extent. Arsenal WERE well in the running to win the league up until the home straight and that was with Fabregas firing on only 1 cyclinder - in contrast, we were out of it by November and the addition of Henderson and Adam to that squad probably isn't enough to make up the points deficit. Arsenal have lost no one YET but have added Gervinho. So until further notice, they can indeed be considered ahead of us (although currently we're level on goal difference!)
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Totally disagree carheex , because there were 2 seasons last season hodgson and dalglish.Liverpool were 2nd only on points to manutd in games after dalglish was appointed and that was without vast changes to the team. He he had carroll come in but carrol was long term injured last season but the rest of the squad was the same more or less as hodgson had. I think it was more than just a new manager lift that nearly all teams get when a new manager comes in. There was a vast change to the way lfc played. We are twice the team already on paper than jodgson had at the start of the season, I see no reason why 2nd place is not possible , and if you can get 2 nd why not try for first (all teams at the top played badly last year)
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2 seasons last season? So we played 76 games and still only finished with 58 points - strewth, we're further behind the ar5e than I thought!  
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Totally disagree carheex , because there were 2 seasons last season hodgson and dalglish.Liverpool were 2nd only on points to manutd in games after dalglish was appointed and that was without vast changes to the team. He he had carroll come in but carrol was long term injured last season but the rest of the squad was the same more or less as hodgson had. I think it was more than just a new manager lift that nearly all teams get when a new manager comes in. There was a vast change to the way lfc played. We are twice the team already on paper than jodgson had at the start of the season, I see no reason why 2nd place is not possible , and if you can get 2 nd why not try for first (all teams at the top played badly last year) Your right about there being two seasons, I will not defend Hodgson but what you have to remember is Hodgson's games he managed in where all games with something on them because they were at the start of the league up until xmas, when Dalglish took over he never had any pressure or must win games because we were out of the league and nobody expected us to qualify for the Champions league, thats a massive difference when judging both managers and it's hardly fair. The only games he had to win were the Europa league ones were he was tacticaly found out against the 6th best team in Portugal and also when Spurs wiped the floor with us at Anfield.
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Beginning of last season everyone was saying arsenal have a weak squad then shocked everyone by challenging up till end of march. We have a good squad, we just need to be able to dominate games and not play so defensively especially against the lower league teams then we should at least finish 4th.
teams play liverpool thinking they have a chance of beating us, we need to change that and get teams worrying about playing us and turn anfield into a fortress again.
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We did not spend 100m+ to come second place. You think winning is achieving 4th but believe me, Dalglish is thinking 1st is the only option. I'm not going to believe you cause that is nonsense. How much have City had to pay year on year to climb one or two places? Well over 100 million. Liverpool do not have a divine right to win the league and Kenny is not an idiot. He will see top 4 as winning the first battle on the road to winning the war.
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