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Now that we have just signed another 20 million pound player to add to 35 million Carroll, 22 million Suarez, 20 million pound Jordan Henderson and 7 million pound Charlie Adam.
I was just wondering if things dont work out and we start the new season average to badly how long into the season do we give it until we need to get shut of Dalglish. I dont expect it to be two games in like Hodgson was given because fans decided he was'nt the right man before he even started so was never going to last regardless.
I ask this question because in the past Liverpool fans have always used excuses like it's the owners fault because they dont provide the right funds or the manager was'nt allowed to buy his first choice players, which for me are all lame excuses.
This season fans have got who they want it charge and they have also had serious money to spend, for me this means there is no more hiding places for a manager or players if they dont produce and even better there is no hiding places for fans who have used these types of excuses so many times in the past. if we fail to win against sunderland by less then a 4goal margin then we take off his head. on a serious note, he needs to be given similar amount of time as houllier and rafa. what i mean is when their team was doing poor we still gave them the benefit of daunt for about a season and a bit. thats all fine give him time but no one gave hodgson time 2 games , he was appointed rightly or wrongly but never given a glimer of a chance on a hiding to nothing from the second he was appointed , i think if fairness is to apply it has to be across the board or is it selective ? are you seriously comparing kenny to roy? kenny has earned his right to be given the benefit of daunt from his past time managing liverpool. every man and his dog new roy wasnt the man for us. i wasnt happy with his appointment but was still willing to back him until i saw how he wanted us to play. if liverpool under him came out and played attacking football but still lost i would have gave him a bit more time. if kenny employs the same tatics as roy and we do us poor as we did last year then i will be calling for change. maybe not as soon as i did with roy but i still would ask for him to step down.
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You're right but surely the dramatic change in our fortunes and style of play since Kenny came back must give you hope for an optimistic future
You're right though that for once we can't point the finger at anyone else if things turn out pear shaped but the way we raised our game last season leads me to think (as I'm not an optimistic person) that that's unlikely to happen
I really dont think you can base anything on performances when Dalglish took over as every game apart from the Spurs game was a not win with no real pressure. Thats why I think the first 5 or 6 games will tell us wether or not he is the right man and why I ask how long do you give him considering he has just shelled out over 100 million pounds in just 7 months. I just think when you spend big money like we have there are no hiding place for the manager if it goes t1ts up, Mancini is under similar pressure and would surely of carried the can if City never progressed to match there plan.
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if he keeps spending at his current rate i'll give him 3 years and if he hasn't won the PL or the CL by then, it's time to move on. personally i think we will win the league in the next 2 years.
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if he keeps spending at his current rate i'll give him 3 years and if he hasn't won the PL or the CL by then, it's time to move on. personally i think we will win the league in the next 2 years. Its a very nice thought if we lived in that world but am afraid your living in cloud cuckoo land if you think these Yankee owners will give him those sort of funds without a return for another three seasons.
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Now that we have just signed another 20 million pound player to add to 35 million Carroll, 22 million Suarez, 20 million pound Jordan Henderson and 7 million pound Charlie Adam.
I was just wondering if things dont work out and we start the new season average to badly how long into the season do we give it until we need to get shut of Dalglish. I dont expect it to be two games in like Hodgson was given because fans decided he was'nt the right man before he even started so was never going to last regardless.
I ask this question because in the past Liverpool fans have always used excuses like it's the owners fault because they dont provide the right funds or the manager was'nt allowed to buy his first choice players, which for me are all lame excuses.
This season fans have got who they want it charge and they have also had serious money to spend, for me this means there is no more hiding places for a manager or players if they dont produce and even better there is no hiding places for fans who have used these types of excuses so many times in the past. By the sounds of it reading that I think you would love it if Dalglish fails so you can log on to koptalk and say "Oh I told you so, we never had a chance blabla. Pathetic
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Now that we have just signed another 20 million pound player to add to 35 million Carroll, 22 million Suarez, 20 million pound Jordan Henderson and 7 million pound Charlie Adam.
I was just wondering if things dont work out and we start the new season average to badly how long into the season do we give it until we need to get shut of Dalglish. I dont expect it to be two games in like Hodgson was given because fans decided he was'nt the right man before he even started so was never going to last regardless.
I ask this question because in the past Liverpool fans have always used excuses like it's the owners fault because they dont provide the right funds or the manager was'nt allowed to buy his first choice players, which for me are all lame excuses.
This season fans have got who they want it charge and they have also had serious money to spend, for me this means there is no more hiding places for a manager or players if they dont produce and even better there is no hiding places for fans who have used these types of excuses so many times in the past. We should give him at least until the start of the season, unlike you're doing with your thinly disguised attack on his purchases so far.
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I know we have had a tough few seasons, but this thread seems awfully pessimistic to me.
To be talking of how long we should give a new manager, be it Kenny Dalglish or be it Mike Bassett, to be talking along these lines is completely out of the ordinary for any Liverpool fan.
I can't for one minute, believe that fans of any of the other top sides, would be talking along these lines (apart from arsenal maybe).
Yes, be realistic, but no, dont be looking beyond a new manager who has only had two premier league games as full time manager!!
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To be honest, as a Red, this thread topic is f*cking embarrassing. Nothing else to add to that.
*RODGERS *SKRTEL *JONJO
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'If there is hope, it lies in the proles'
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I think we should give him 2 seasons for him to build his own team. But that will depend on how well he does in his first half of the season. If he did very well , then I'm sure all the supporters and the owners will back him up. If he falters badly , Liverpool supporters will call for his head too. As Liverpool supporters we have faith in all our managers but not blind faith. We know when they are not performing well and when to start reacting when they did badly. A good example is Graeme Souness. How good he is as a player does not come into the picture when he did badly as a manager. Liverpool supporters demand that he step down and he did. So let's give King Kenny 2 full seasons to build his own team. I know time are different now but looking back at his reputation of building his won team 2 decades ago , how he build his team from a great team to a team of legends. Let time decides.
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If i was a mod, i would have locked this thread even before it started or merge it under bullsh!t thread.
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