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i dont mind the fact that raffa had short comings, but what really bothers me to the point of resenting him is his TOTAL failure to take ANY responsibility for his mistakes and failures. If he held his hands up on certain signings and the disasterous defensive system, then i'd say fair enough, he's an honest guy who did his best.. but the guy was not only falling short, he then insisted on taking over the running of all footblling aspects of the club, after which we got rapidly worse, and he STILL didnt take any responsibility. i cant stand people like that. they are dangerous with any kind of power and dont have the clubs best interest at heart. spot on - it was always somebody elses fault - they called his bluff and gave him absolute contol of the club and he fell flat on his a r se and it was the owners fault of course - for every good player he signed he signed 4/5 s hite ones and yes he is a very likeable man to who seemed genuinely smitten by the club but he's gone and he isn't coming back so this is a futile thread.
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i dont mind the fact that raffa had short comings, but what really bothers me to the point of resenting him is his TOTAL failure to take ANY responsibility for his mistakes and failures. If he held his hands up on certain signings and the disasterous defensive system, then i'd say fair enough, he's an honest guy who did his best.. but the guy was not only falling short, he then insisted on taking over the running of all footblling aspects of the club, after which we got rapidly worse, and he STILL didnt take any responsibility. i cant stand people like that. they are dangerous with any kind of power and dont have the clubs best interest at heart. You could say that ALL threads are futile. But what you have failed to understand, in between disrespecting an all time great servant to the club, is that this thread isn't about whether he's coming back or not. You've missed the point completely and got caught up in an off-tangent argument. This thread was intended to reflect how different our squad would look now if Rafa had the money that Kenny has, ie KD seems to have a strong preference towards british players and RB preferred (or had a better knowledge of) the continentals. When you consider that british doesn't give such good value for money what kind of team would Rafa have built with £100m+.... spot on - it was always somebody elses fault - they called his bluff and gave him absolute contol of the club and he fell flat on his a r se and it was the owners fault of course - for every good player he signed he signed 4/5 s hite ones and yes he is a very likeable man to who seemed genuinely smitten by the club but he's gone and he isn't coming back so this is a futile thread.
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benitez had and wasted millions of pounds it make me laugh when people say he had no money to spend , PLEASE CAN THIS WHAT WOULD BENITEZ DO CR@P STOP , he was part of the down fall of the club and if he is this great manager as the deluded liverpool fans say why hasnt he got a job if he is that good , its because he is TOXIC Utter and total nonsense. Unbelievable shitte. The lack of respect you show to that great man is astounding. Next time you sing 'we won it five times' STOP AND THINK WHY ! dickfor brains.  dick for brains great man ha you are unbelievable , great men are shankly,paisley,fagan and dalglish not your beloved benitez , he washed the clubs dirty linen in public and moaned and ranted had millions to spend and wasted most of it , yes he gets credit for 2005 but also he get stick for his waste of money and as the italians said traffic warden football .
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i dont mind the fact that raffa had short comings, but what really bothers me to the point of resenting him is his TOTAL failure to take ANY responsibility for his mistakes and failures. If he held his hands up on certain signings and the disasterous defensive system, then i'd say fair enough, he's an honest guy who did his best.. but the guy was not only falling short, he then insisted on taking over the running of all footblling aspects of the club, after which we got rapidly worse, and he STILL didnt take any responsibility. i cant stand people like that. they are dangerous with any kind of power and dont have the clubs best interest at heart. great post well said exactly correct !!!!
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i dont mind the fact that raffa had short comings, but what really bothers me to the point of resenting him is his TOTAL failure to take ANY responsibility for his mistakes and failures. If he held his hands up on certain signings and the disasterous defensive system, then i'd say fair enough, he's an honest guy who did his best.. but the guy was not only falling short, he then insisted on taking over the running of all footblling aspects of the club, after which we got rapidly worse, and he STILL didnt take any responsibility. i cant stand people like that. they are dangerous with any kind of power and dont have the clubs best interest at heart. spot on - it was always somebody elses fault - they called his bluff and gave him absolute contol of the club and he fell flat on his a r se and it was the owners fault of course - for every good player he signed he signed 4/5 s hite ones and yes he is a very likeable man to who seemed genuinely smitten by the club but he's gone and he isn't coming back so this is a futile thread. What nonsense. Cause you really hear managers everywhere going public with where they went wrong. Get real lad.
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its like some sort of cult IE David Koresh with this benitez fella .
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No Faz its just a bit of respect where its due.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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No Faz its just a bit of respect where its due. i always said he gets credit for 2005 and 2006 , but he is also part of the clubs down fall he spent and wasted millions and then moaned cried ranted and blamed everyone except himself , i think repsect is earned not conned like he has done , it is like david koresh with liverpool supporters over benitez , ask your self why hasnt he got a job if he is this great manager ?
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You seem to think everyone who shows appreciation for what Rafa achieved as believing he could do no wrong, which makes you look a tad emp ish. But what I find more insulting is you seem to give little credit to our previous owners horrific reign for the crap we were left in.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Many managers would kill to have Benitez' record on transfers, win ratio, medals etc. That says just as much as him been currently out of a job for half a season.
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