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That is completely fair enough Lumba and in fact has made me think twice about what I said a couple of times about unnecessary pressure on the team. But still, is there any sense in setting expectations that are beyond someone's reach? If QPR set the goal of finishing in the top 6, it can't help but be detrimental to the morale of the squad as well as other things. If a spurs fan came here and said I think Tottenham are gonna win it this year we would all laugh. Yet they arguably have a stronger squad than we do (I'm not saying they do, but playing devil's advocate and there are those who would say that). It seems to me it is only Liverpool fans that think Liverpool can win, and a small section of fans at that, and that is only because we have past glory. No one would look at our team right now, the past couple of years, and say that team should be hopeful of winning the league. This blind 'optimism' isn't always the best way to support a club.

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Great post there Greased Cougar, brought back some memories. And yes the last 20+ years were painful coming as they did, after our domination from the early 60s, except for the cups and CLs!! That was what sustained us I think! Hope it inspires more optimism in this forum, as its badly needed, in this our dark hour!!

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I think the Liverpool Fans out there in this present day and age who still talk about them winning leagues reminds me of a very old dog who chases a cat, he chases it regardles because thats what he remember's from doing when he was young even though now he does'nt know why and he has'nt a hope in hell's chance of ever catching it. I would'nt worry about it because what those fans are now going through happend to Spurs in the 60's, Leeds Utd in the 70's and Everton in the 80's they are thought there Clubs still should be winning leagues, you ask an Evertonian now and he will still say Everton are one of the big five from the 80's.

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My cat scares the shitt out of the neighbours staffy,so I fail to see your point.


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Nice article this I will take the mocking I will bide my time and believe and I will wait patiently, believing in LFC each and every season and I will be there smiling when we eventually claw our way back to the top. We are still a huge club in terms of fan base and by that I mean real fans who have shown their staying power during extremely lean times. We a still a huge club in terms of potential revenue and we have a fantastic history that puts us up there with footballs elite. We live by our motto you'll never walk alone and that's not dependant on success and that's something to be proud of I really do believe we have the best fans in the world.(and Jim Tonez who sometimes sounds like it's a struggle supporting LFC!!!!!)

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Originally Posted By: DBS
Nice article this I will take the mocking I will bide my time and believe and I will wait patiently, believing in LFC each and every season and I will be there smiling when we eventually claw our way back to the top. We are still a huge club in terms of fan base and by that I mean real fans who have shown their staying power during extremely lean times. We a still a huge club in terms of potential revenue and we have a fantastic history that puts us up there with footballs elite. We live by our motto you'll never walk alone and that's not dependant on success and that's something to be proud of I really do believe we have the best fans in the world.(and Jim Tonez who sometimes sounds like it's a struggle supporting LFC!!!!!)
the bottom line is who would a player like Messi sign for out of us or Chelsea? us with better potential, fan base, history and potential revenue or Chelsea with money, success now and a chance to live and work in London, now tell me again what is important to a player like Messi right now and who would he pick taking into consideration it's nowadays which actualy matter.

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That's irrelevant can you tell me under what circumstances would Messi sign for Chelsea or us? Why would he Chelsea in your opinion? It would be a massive step down and could only happen if he got too old and Barca not longer wanted him.

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we have to belive but its also important to remain clear in the fact we are very unlikely to win the league this coming season. top 4 has to be the main mission and a decent run in one of the cups for a change.

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LFC2k5 you are right that is a realistic aim for the short term and would be a significant step in the right direction and your also right we do have to believe

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Originally Posted By: mybloodisred
That is completely fair enough Lumba and in fact has made me think twice about what I said a couple of times about unnecessary pressure on the team. But still, is there any sense in setting expectations that are beyond someone's reach? If QPR set the goal of finishing in the top 6, it can't help but be detrimental to the morale of the squad as well as other things. If a spurs fan came here and said I think Tottenham are gonna win it this year we would all laugh. Yet they arguably have a stronger squad than we do (I'm not saying they do, but playing devil's advocate and there are those who would say that). It seems to me it is only Liverpool fans that think Liverpool can win, and a small section of fans at that, and that is only because we have past glory. No one would look at our team right now, the past couple of years, and say that team should be hopeful of winning the league. This blind 'optimism' isn't always the best way to support a club.


I would agree with you if we were under a different manager like Hodgson or Rafa but seriously this is the King. You can call me crazy but I am very optomistic about this new season but at the same time I am not saying we will win the league because that will be crazy but I am very optomistic and I feel any trophy would be a great success and a huge step going to the right way even if it is the Carling Cup. We are investing wisely for once under a good strategy and under the control of King Kenny. We have to believe, we have to be optomistic even if its out of our hands because at the end of the day thats a fans job.

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