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Originally Posted By: emperor rafa
there is no way in a million years Gerrard is a forward. I know he plays in that position now and for most of the time we get away with having him there but for me he is no forward, all his main attributes are midfield ones like tackling, shooting, passing, crossing and scoring a few goals. As i have said previously he is the best all round player in the world by a mile but not special in one position. [/quote]

he is a forward,so how can he not be in a million years,
its a perfect position for him,it is his position ,he can drop deep for the ball,arrive in the box at the right time and play as a support player for torres. he is also the best finisher in the world. he can play elsewhere in the midfield but quiet honestly i wouldn't want any other player over him to partner torres- world class i think so [/quote]So he's the best finisher in the world is he? better than Davis Villa, Eto, Torres and Drogba listen dont talk daft your letting your blind loyalty to a Liverpool player cloud your judgement. Steven Gerrard is no forward, for a start he is not as good with his back to goal which forwards play with and secondly when we are pushed back onto our back foot Gerrard drops deeper and deeper into midfield and at the same times isolates Torres on his own where you are left with what we had against Spurs with Torres being bullied by three defenders. As i have said you can get away with playing Gerrard up front and in the centre of midfield against alot of teams but not against all.

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And it was Rafa that found Stevie his pet position....

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Originally Posted By: emperor rafa
by accident after 2yrs and playing him here there and everywhere ,no stroke of genius to credit to rafa
Dont talk rubbish it was no way a stroke of genius, he played him in central midfield first where he found he was'nt good enough, he then played him right midfield which for me was his best position, Gerrard did'nt like it there and threatend to leave so the fat spanish waiter put him up front once this fails he will probably play him right back. All the waiter is doing is trying to find a place in the team to keep him happy, exactly the same thing is happening with Capello and England and Erikson before him, he plays Gerrard on the left hand side because he cant find a place in the middle and he is not as good as Rooney playing off the striker as Rooney is more natural in that role. as i have stated Gerrard is the best allround player in the world but no way is he special in one position thats why managers have to find places for him in teams.

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Since Rafa took over he's seemed obsessed with the 2 defensive midfield system and didn't want to trust Gerrard in the middle of the park. I'm hoping the signing of Aquilani is the start of moving away from that system, especially in league games at Anfield. It's OK away in the Champions league and maybe in the league away games at United, Chelsea and Arsenal where you need to be a bit more cagey. At home games in the league I think Gerrard is more than capable of dictating play from the centre and playing deeper and play Benny just off Torres instead or perhaps Aquilani? Personally I'd like us to play with the 1 holding player i.e Mascharano and let Aquliani and Gerrard the freedom to support Torres, a 4-1-4-1 formation instead of 4-2-3-1.

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Originally Posted By: emperor rafa
that would be nice but rafa will never do it. he has to believe in the system , even if it means 0-0 v stoke . if the system doesn't work then rafa is nothing


sort of agree,,with ur comments about him frown


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I dont think there is any doubt the balance of the team has / will change.

Johnson has already had an impact as is a far more attack minded than Arbeloa
and Aquilani is a more offensive player than Alonso. We will be more attack minded.

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lets say david villa plays for valencia in europe means he is cup tied in jan, which also means his price tag falls meaning maybe we do have the funds set aside for him at this time, which may also explain the lack of spending in the summer.

i know im prob wrong but its nice to be ambitious smile

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Originally Posted By: redryan
lets say david villa plays for valencia in europe means he is cup tied in jan, which also means his price tag falls meaning maybe we do have the funds set aside for him at this time, which may also explain the lack of spending in the summer.

i know im prob wrong but its nice to be ambitious smile
Lets just say the same for Messi then as aswell

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we dont have a genuine interest in messi, barca are not desperate to sell, want me to add any more reasons to point out why that last post was pointless??????

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Originally Posted By: redryan
we dont have a genuine interest in messi, barca are not desperate to sell, want me to add any more reasons to point out why that last post was pointless??????
alrite al ask you a question which is also pointless, why on earth would David Villa one of the best goalscorers in the world, who has got one final big contract and chance of club success left in his career want to waste himself on coming to a club that does'nt win trophies, is losing what Spanish players it has every season, whose his mate Torres will be gone after the world cup or if we are lucky the season after becuase he wont get success either and also play for a manager who in all honesty will be sacked at the end of the season.

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