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If it goes to another area, it just won't be the same anymore. The culture, the history, the people. Match day won't be the same anymore in merseyside if we build it away from the city. Its not the same anymore anyway, the stadium has been changed on all four sides since 1973, there are hardly any local fans going to the match anymore, The players who made the Club great in the past are no longer there, the managers who set the foundations are no longer with us, the pitch which at one time held fans ashes had been dug up and replaced every season, the Club Crest and badge has changed about 4 times since the 70's, there is no longer a boot room, all operations are now directed from Melwood, the Club is no longer a football Club but a business,the Club now sees us as customers,clients or punters and definately not fans or supporters, we are an american business not a british one at that. So as you see the History and Culture no longer exists in practical terms, it only exists when people want to get all nostalgic and unfortunately thats what we have done for far to long now, living on past glories, which explains the current situation we find ourselves in today. this is true and until and this has to realised by liverpool supporters , its similar to liverpool supporters who choose to not make the connection between the sun and the (NOTW)the sunday sun , GET IN THE REAL WORLD PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!
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Connect it to old toilet via a 23 mile long overground sewage pipe and connect city of liverpool sewage to trafford, make it wide enogh to fit poulson and kuntchesky in
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Agree with every word Reds NS. How many of those who talk of Nostalgia actually attend the games at Anfield? Also with a new ground you are building for the next 100 years. Who is to say what the supporter of the future will be? It’s not an unreasonable assumption to say many will come from abroad particularly once club PPV comes out. For me the bigger the stadium the better and that goes for the transport link. Anfield is landlocked in a residential area it’s a very poor location and there are far better in Liverpool or just outside Liverpool. The choice of Stanley Park was David Moores idea and we all know good he was a commercial decision making. Thats right Stanley, what people on here fail to understand is that when Anfield was Built, it was built in residential areas because people could'nt travel, they walked to the ground so it had to be built were people could get to on foot. It's a whole different ball game now because there is hardly any locals going the main fan comes from outside the city which means the transport and infilstructure needs to be sound which it will never be while the Club remains in Anfield, increasing the capacity will only make the situation 100 times worse than now. What you say is completely right, we need to think about the next 100 years and if we get this wrong now we could end up paying and regreting this chance for ever. We need to move outside the City and use to our advantage the fantastic, road, rail and airport links, lets be pioneers and be the first to put into place a massive stadium with bigger capacity cheaper ticket prices and with fan parks like in the world cup in Germany and really push the boat out, we will only get this chance once.
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A few things to throw in. a) Liverpool is the fastest growing city in the UK. b) it is home to the biggest commercial development ever undertaken in the European Union the £50 billion Ocean Gateway Project. This will make Liverpool the biggest freight terminal in Europe with the bulk of the UK’s goods coming in via this port. Given the UK’s population is forecast to expand to 70 million (thanks New Labour) this will be some amount of freight coming in. c) As part of the OG project eventually a new financial centre will be built. d) Liverpool last week just announced a new Cruise Liner facility which will take business off Southampton. Cruises will start and finish in Liverpool and Southampton is not best pleased. e) Liverpool has over the past few years become a big destination for central Europeans to take a city break and this will only expand. DOES THIS SOUND LIKE A CITY WHERE WE SHOULD BUILD A SECOND RATE STADIUM FOR ONE OF THE WORLDS PREMIER FOOTBALL CLUBS?
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A few things to throw in. a) Liverpool is the fastest growing city in the UK. b) it is home to the biggest commercial development ever undertaken in the European Union the £50 billion Ocean Gateway Project. This will make Liverpool the biggest freight terminal in Europe with the bulk of the UK’s goods coming in via this port. Given the UK’s population is forecast to expand to 70 million (thanks New Labour) this will be some amount of freight coming in. c) As part of the OG project eventually a new financial centre will be built. d) Liverpool last week just announced a new Cruise Liner facility which will take business off Southampton. Cruises will start and finish in Liverpool and Southampton is not best pleased. e) Liverpool has over the past few years become a big destination for central Europeans to take a city break and this will only expand. DOES THIS SOUND LIKE A CITY WHERE WE SHOULD BUILD A SECOND RATE STADIUM FOR ONE OF THE WORLDS PREMIER FOOTBALL CLUBS? Just makes you wonder what really goes on in some fans minds when they seem happy to just tart up the existing stadium for about 10.000 extra seats, Dalglish should hold his head in shame with his quote this week about being happy to stay where we are, talk about lack of vision.
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Kenny was probably being diplomatic. In 40 years time (if Kenny is still with us) he will not recognise Liverpool. You are right NS we are in danger of forever regretting unless we have the vision. But I am sure the Liverpool Chamber of Commerce will have put John Henry right if he does not know these things. I am sure he does, lets hope he has better vision than David Moores.
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Kenny was probably being diplomatic. In 40 years time (if Kenny is still with us) he will not recognise Liverpool. You are right NS we are in danger of forever regretting unless we have the vision. But I am sure the Liverpool Chamber of Commerce will have put John Henry right if he does not know these things. I am sure he does, lets hope he has better vision than David Moores. To be honest Stanley that was one of the reason's i was against Dalglish coming back, he was part of the past we needed to move on from as things are no longer the same, when he made that quote to me it just smacked of nostalga and sentiment which is what we need to eradicate. It's no coincidence your Wenger's, Ferguson's and Redknapp's will be that last type of them appointment's you will see these Clubs make as they will be looking towards younger and fresher managers who have coaching badges and are quick enough to move with the times, older managers are set in there ways and will only do what they know and as we know the game changes very quickly nowadays you need flexibility when you are faced with new challenges. When Dalglish made that statement it just summed up for me the reason's we have stood still for over 20 years while our rivals have gradualy caught us up and overtaken us.
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Red NS you may or may not be right about the managers. But lets keep the debate on the stadium / naming rights. Because you are quite correct this is the most important subject on this site. Managers / players come and go but your stadium is the club's very existence. Some will say no point in having a fantastic stadium and a rubbish team. But I say the two go together you must have both, top stadia and a top team if you are considered to be a world class club. Liverpool are that JUST but the decisions taken now will determine whether we stay at that status or become something like say Villa.
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wash your mouth out: 'likevilla' I'm gonna barf
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Wow! Newcastle's st.james's park's seating capacity is more than ours! Shame on us.
‘There are only two
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and one is blue and the blue side
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-Bill Shankly.
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