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Well only time will tell if you're right. I'm not too bothered either way if we get Downing or Mata. I think both will be good additions. I'd perhaps favour Downing for the fact that we know he will cut it in the EPL but the price is a bit high.
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What I meant was that I don't mind which one we get.
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I agree both will be good additions, but downing just doesn't excite with his flair and I think we need flair. Yep, only time will tell, I could be completely wrong, but I am hoping I have read this right as I would prefer Mata.
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Why is there so much talk about mata being better than downing?
Please point out the attributes in which mata is better than downing?
Downing has more pace, better crosser,more height,more experience,plays in epl,is english.
So why mata and not downing?
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Why is there so much talk about mata being better than downing?
Please point out the attributes in which mata is better than downing?
Downing has more pace, better crosser,more height,more experience,plays in epl,is english.
So why mata and not downing? Mata is considered by some to be more of a high profile signing and they are confusing this with how useful he would be to the squad. For me, Mata would be a risk as he hasn't played in the Prem before and performs a different role - one which we don't necessarily need someone for. I'd be happy with either but think that Downing would benefit Carroll/the team more. And with Kenny's preference for british players i think Downing will be ours pretty soon. The Mata talk has snowballed because of the media and gossip sites like this one - I doubt that kenny has any real intent on signing him.
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I disagree Carheex. Whilst I agree that Downing might be proven in the premiership and may have better physical attributes, he does not have more pace and what he lacks most of all is FLAIR! Mata has bags of flair, which is something we require.
What I do not understand is this talk that Downing is a better crosser and so on, surely our game plan will not be based on the simple fact that we have Carroll who can jump and Head the ball. Surely Carroll was bought for more than just the fact that he can head it. I think we already have more than enough players who can whip in crosses, whereas we are lacking a bit on the technical side. Technical attributes is another area where Mata is far superior to Downing. In an ideal world, we would sign them both and have a choice depending on the tactics employed for a certain match. The way I see things is, that we are dying for wingers, but I think we are in more need of a winger who can cut inside and tease the defence and chip in a short cross, than we are for one that can whip in crosses from the touchline. I think we have genuine interest in both of these players and with Villa standing their ground and to their valuation of Downing, I just feel that Mata has become a priority over Downing. That is just my conclusion though.
Their have been so many lnks on rumours and gossip sites, yet not many of them have snowballed. The ones that have have been proven true so far, concerning Adam and Downing, where we have made formal approaches for both, so I see no reason to rubbish the Mata links. There is something to them, definately, whether we end up signing him is irrelavant as far as that is concerned. there is definately genuine interest.
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I disagree Carheex. Whilst I agree that Downing might be proven in the premiership and may have better physical attributes, he does not have more pace and what he lacks most of all is FLAIR! Mata has bags of flair, which is something we require.
What I do not understand is this talk that Downing is a better crosser and so on, surely our game plan will not be based on the simple fact that we have Carroll who can jump and Head the ball. Surely Carroll was bought for more than just the fact that he can head it. I think we already have more than enough players who can whip in crosses, whereas we are lacking a bit on the technical side. Technical attributes is another area where Mata is far superior to Downing. In an ideal world, we would sign them both and have a choice depending on the tactics employed for a certain match. The way I see things is, that we are dying for wingers, but I think we are in more need of a winger who can cut inside and tease the defence and chip in a short cross, than we are for one that can whip in crosses from the touchline. I think we have genuine interest in both of these players and with Villa standing their ground and to their valuation of Downing, I just feel that Mata has become a priority over Downing. That is just my conclusion though.
Their have been so many lnks on rumours and gossip sites, yet not many of them have snowballed. The ones that have have been proven true so far, concerning Adam and Downing, where we have made formal approaches for both, so I see no reason to rubbish the Mata links. There is something to them, definately, whether we end up signing him is irrelavant as far as that is concerned. there is definitely genuine interest. We've been "linked" to 80+ players so far. If only 2 of them (Adam and Downing) have proven to be true then that gives us every reason to think that Mata is like all the others - ie nonsense. If we wanted him, why haven't we made an offer?
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Really feeling the love in this thread! 
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I disagree Carheex. Whilst I agree that Downing might be proven in the premiership and may have better physical attributes, he does not have more pace and what he lacks most of all is FLAIR! Mata has bags of flair, which is something we require.
What I do not understand is this talk that Downing is a better crosser and so on, surely our game plan will not be based on the simple fact that we have Carroll who can jump and Head the ball. Surely Carroll was bought for more than just the fact that he can head it. I think we already have more than enough players who can whip in crosses, whereas we are lacking a bit on the technical side. Technical attributes is another area where Mata is far superior to Downing. In an ideal world, we would sign them both and have a choice depending on the tactics employed for a certain match. The way I see things is, that we are dying for wingers, but I think we are in more need of a winger who can cut inside and tease the defence and chip in a short cross, than we are for one that can whip in crosses from the touchline. I think we have genuine interest in both of these players and with Villa standing their ground and to their valuation of Downing, I just feel that Mata has become a priority over Downing. That is just my conclusion though.
Their have been so many lnks on rumours and gossip sites, yet not many of them have snowballed. The ones that have have been proven true so far, concerning Adam and Downing, where we have made formal approaches for both, so I see no reason to rubbish the Mata links. There is something to them, definately, whether we end up signing him is irrelavant as far as that is concerned. there is definitely genuine interest. We've been "linked" to 80+ players so far. If only 2 of them (Adam and Downing) have proven to be true then that gives us every reason to think that Mata is like all the others - ie nonsense. If we wanted him, why haven't we made an offer? Carheex, Are you actually joking? I am not gonna read anymore of your posts, cause it just isn't worth it. You are either on an intelectual level far beneath my own, or you are taking the mickey and I just couldn't be bothered with you. The last thing I am gonna say to you is to learn how to read. I said the links that have snowballed. Ie, the most talked about rumours, i.e. Adam, Downing and Mata....2 of the 3 have turned out to be genuine. The fact that there are some clowns out there, not unlike yourself, linking us with Aguero and Kaka and such is not my fault and of course those rumours can be rubbished. Now, I will ask you kindly not to refer to me in your posts anymore, or to quote me as I do not wish to be associated with the likes of you.
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