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Originally Posted By: trepie
the thing that made liverpool great in the past was that we have great players that worked hard! there should be no need to choose one over the other because the best players do both

babel is not and never will be a great player so he can just f off to somewhere, anywhere else
yeah but you get the other side of the coin when you have players like Carragher, Mascharano and Kuyt who show fantastic commitment and desire but are woeful footballers, I think we need to be getting shut of these players as well as the ones who have ability but lack commitment and desire like Babel, we need players who have both.

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yes we do - though you are being unfair to carra he is a better player than he is given credit for - he can do more than he is allowed or allows himself to do because he plays with such defensive restraint

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i think babel will be one of the best players in the world alas not at liverpool


on what evidence? this is the same ryan babel who "plays" for liverpool? what is it that makes him so great....his control? work rate? attitude? please enlighten us


only time will tell its just my opinion

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Originally Posted By: trepie
yes we do - though you are being unfair to carra he is a better player than he is given credit for - he can do more than he is allowed or allows himself to do because he plays with such defensive restraint
come on we all know Carragher is a great lad who wears his heart on his sleeve but he has the record for being the man with most limited footballing ability having played the most games for the club. Carragher, Mascherano, Kuyt and Lucas would not of got in Liverpool's reserve team years ago never mind the first team, thats how far down our standards have slipped.

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What absolute tripe!!

There's only one person to blame for the postion babel find's himself in and that's firmly at the door of Babel!

When I found out he was starting against Spur's I was pleasantly suprised. I thought great the lad has got his head down and is finaly ready to take the opportunity he's been give. But unbelievably he was worse than last season. I'm glad Rafa has come out in public. Hopefully this will be the rocket up the arse this lad needs.


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not true at all ...... he has far more ability than he shows, his problem is that he holds himself back and refuses to allow himself to just play ...... i am not sure if it is down to bad coaching/management or his own personal problem but trust me he has a lot of ability which he holds back on using

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Originally Posted By: trepie
i am not sure if it is down to bad coaching/management or his own personal problem but trust me he has a lot of ability which he holds back on using


No. He's just one lazy get, more interested in his ...so called....music noisy unintelligible utter utter crappy sh1te.

To answer the thread titles question, quite simply, I sincerley hope so, bloody waster. mad

Just remeber the next time you go to Anfield. You are helping to pay his obscene wages for NO effort.

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erm growler that reply of mine was to gedthered and was referring to carra not babel - i think babel is a lazy [oops] with no first touch, who can't pass, tackle or shoot but apart from that he's alright wink

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Apparently, Babel was going to be on Talk Sport this avvy.
Anyone here what the little toe rag had to say for himself? Promoting his latest bit of musical talent p'raps? tired

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He's denied saying that he wanted to leave for Ajax. He says it was a Dutch interview and that the UK press churned it all up. He says he wants to stay at Liverpool.

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