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point taken with RB/RCB. i know the greek was brough in only recently but rafa went for him cos he has experience and is older than ayala irrespective of how many hours of training he's put in.

in the past few years we haven't blooded enough younsters. we used to have a great history of it, but in the past decade it hasn't been the case. putting two in one area of the pitch at the same time doesn't work for me.

why not? they would have played together in the reserves so should know each other's game - gotta be better than one out there on his own with some guy next to him that won't even know his name let alone his game!

so two youngsters with 21 premiership apprearances and no internationals between them is better than one younster with 19 appearances and one senior player with 50 senior internationals and champions league experience. and you're backing this up on the basis of playing together in the reserves?

no i am backing it up on the basis of them knowing each other's game and the rest of the team's ...... unlike a greek who was a laughing stock in scotland and struggled to come to terms with the pace of the game there - he has one strength and one strength only - he is great in the air but that is not enough for him to be good enough to play for us

better to give a kid a chance and see if he can step up to the mark than bringing in another player on high wages who is clearly not good enough and is only intended as a back up

we have NO money! when are you people gonna get it through your thick skulls that we can't afford to waste money on back up players that aren't good enough! this is exactly what houllier did when he lost the plot - he started bringing in players that clearly aren't good enough to make the first team to fill the gaps in the squad ....... what we need to do is use youngsters to fill those gaps and give them a chance ....... if they don't make it here then at least we will have raised their value when we sell them!

ps experience is no substitute for ability after all robbie savage has a ton of experience but he has never been good enough to play for us!

i find your manner unncessary trepie. there's no need to talk about "you people's thick skulls". a little over the top there.

by the way you did back your argument up about two players knowing each others games but you didn't back up about knowing "the rest of the teams". this is the first time you mentioned it. the rationale you gave was that ayala and insua play together in the reserves and know each others game...fair enough. but how does that equip them to know the rest of the teams game? stevie, fernando, masch, dirk does playing in the reserves teach you how to read their game?

further to the rest of your post i'd back up using young players in different parts of the team....pachedo, spearing etc. they should be blooded...in league games but in a balanced setting where they have plenty of high quality experienced senior players to help them settle in.

i recognise that experience isn't the be all and end all of the game....far from it. but neither is playing too many young players in one team at the same time. the key is balance...which is something we don't have.

i did back that up by mentioning they had the entire preseason together with the first team, along with the other young centre back kelly

we have plenty of experience - sometimes giving youth its head pays dividends when you have a core of experience (which we have) ......... we have torres up front, gerrard, mash, riera, kuyt and benny in midfield and carra/skrtel/agger and johnson in defence plus reina in goal ...... all have good experience and all can talk kids through a game - they should be the building blocks that the kids are placed around ...... its not like we are talking about ayala being first choice as agger and skrtel will both be available at some point and the chances are ayala would get at most 3 or 4 games but instead we have spent 2mill in transfer fees plus however much in signing bonus + wages for some guy who was bought as a back up ....... we would have been far better saving the money!

the thick skulls comment wasn't aimed at you btw was a general thing for people in here that still talk about villa, silva etc joining ..... we need to scrimp and save and gather our money together to buy players that will walk into the first team not ones that are for covering when players are injured like kyrgiakos is

kyriakos is a good signing for backup, you are free to call people think skulls because they have a different opinon of flavour fr topics than you have:) its democracy:)

Thik skull, numb skull whatever you wish to call people:)

Enjoy you weekend again:)

i am calling them thick because they won't accept we have no money not for having a different opinion ....... though in your case i have to wonder

You are free to wonder too:)

Have a great week