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Agreed Babel has a responsibility for developing himself, rather than sitting back and waiting for it to happen!

Lazy!

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I believe Liverpool is too big a club for Babel. He's let it go to his head, probably thinking that he's made it - just by joining us - even before he's done anything in the game.

His application and attititude have been wrong from the beginning and you always get the feeling that he wants the success without any of the hard work that even the very top players have to put in.

Sooner he leaves the better!

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Originally Posted By: trepie
sorry i disagree totally on this one ged - how you can lay the blame for this at rafa's door is beyond me! babel was told to work harder in training and prove himself and he would be given a run of games but he hasn't done so ...... the other players call him a lazy [oops] ...... this is down to babel - if he listened and put the effort in he would have been given a chance - the problem is 99% babel

i do understand what you are saying about him needing a different treatment but he has to improve his attitude to play with a big club ...... he thinks he has already made it and therein is the problem - he doesn't think he needs to make improvements to his game!!
Babel needs a run of games thats all he neeeded but because he is a scapegoat he never got the chance, just answer me this then why does'nt the waiter play him in his favoured position which is up front, even when we have had injuries, why does he continue to play him on the left when the whole world can see he is right footed and why does'nt he get treated the same as Kuyt who no matter how poorly he plays is always the first name on the team sheet . Listen am not saying Babel would be good enough am asking the question has he really been treated the same as other players like Kuyt, Carragher, the Argentine, Torres and captain fantastic Gerrard. Its easy to leave out Benyoun and Babel so how on earth can a player build confidence when everytime he does play well he is left out of the team like Benyoun against Bolton no wonder there heart and desire are not in it when they get treated like that.

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because of his attitude - its his attitude holding him back not rafa

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Originally Posted By: gedthered09
Only one person to blame for the Babel fiasco and thats the fat spanish waiter. Different players need to be treated in different ways and Babel is a confidence player, there is no way in a million years playing him for a game then leaving him out for three throughout a season no matter how well he plays is going to help him develop. For a start he has never played him in his best position up front for a run of games and when he has played him he has always played him on the left when he is all right foot, totaly out of position. Am not saying Babel has a good attitude or anything like that I just think he has been treated very shabbily by a manager who does'nt know his ar*e from his elbow. I notice he never leaves Kuyt out no matter how bad he plays it always seems to be the easy target scapegoat players like Babel and Benyoune. Funny the way he has treated probably 3 out of our only 5 most skillful players so cheap and shabbily Babel, Benyoun and Xabi Alonso, maybe there is a pattern developing, please BENITEZ go now for the good of the club you incompetent fool.


I will agree with u on 2 points:
1. He does play Babel in the wrong position, he is a right footed striker, i neva could understand way he plays him on the LW.
2. True he neva leeves out Kuyt, and almost neva subs him. To me he can be very selfish in front of the box at times.

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hey emp, nice to have you back. lol smile

Where you been mate?


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Originally Posted By: taveman
i think babel will be one of the best players in the world alas not at liverpool


on what evidence? this is the same ryan babel who "plays" for liverpool? what is it that makes him so great....his control? work rate? attitude? please enlighten us

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There is every chance that Babel will go on to be a great player. Unfortunately Rafa will always go for work rate over skill so his chances will be limited at LFC. Probably best to move him on and get a bit of the transfer fee back.

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the thing that made liverpool great in the past was that we have great players that worked hard! there should be no need to choose one over the other because the best players do both

babel is not and never will be a great player so he can just f off to somewhere, anywhere else

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irrespective of whether rafa prefers work rate or not, great players are able to trap a ball, always find another player with a pass or a cross and put effort in. dalglish, barnes, hansen, rush, keegan, whelan, molby, mcallister. these are what i consider great players.

are you honestly trying to put it across to the members of this forum that babel is that great? honestly?

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