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Originally Posted By: RED NS
think the longer you are out of the top four the harder it is to get back into it and thats with or without Europa League games. If we fail to qualify again this coming season which in all honesty looks a very good bet it will mean we have been out of Champions League football for three seasons and counting, When you take into consideration we need the top players to get back in, in the first place and any top player with his weight will always put money, Champions league Football and a chance to win the games biggest honours all ahead of a Club who can only really offer a rich yesteryear History and talk of a mythical blueprint of a so called brighter future which might bare fruit in about four years time, the chances dont look too good of us getting back into the top four.
and up to now the signings or should i say signing doesnt b=reed confidence even the players mentioned in despatches dont make you think they will change it much sadly .

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If i'm brutally honest, i don't think the players tried their best in the games against Spurs & Villa. I'm not suggesting they threw the matches at all. But, they didn't seem to 'want it' as much. This would tell me that most of them maybe didn't fancy playng every Thursday in the Europa League and Sunday in the Premiership. If this is the case and most of the players didn't want Europa League, then i don't see why any prospective players would be any different.

The aim is clear for this season - to get back into the top 4 - and having no Europa League games as a distraction/hindrance can only aid that, in my opinion.


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I am not certain about fatigue in regards to playing two matches a week. With the youth we have it shouldn't impact us too terribly.

I would've liked to see them play in the Europa League for three reasons:

1. All be it a longshot, the winner of Europa League gets an automatic Champions League bid.

2. Playing time for our "wealth" of youth to gain experience and new talent joining the club to become more acclimated.

3. One of my football channels televises Europa League games all the time. Since Liverpool is a big name club they showed a majority of LFC's games. That's a number of matches I won't get to see. It may be selfish, but it's true.


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Come on guys. Let's treat this season as a break from European football so that we can get our domestic form right. If you were to ask me right now which is more important , European football or Premier League title , I would say the latter. What is the use of playing European football every single week if our domestic form suffer. I would rather , now , we concentrate on our domestic form so that we can get back stronger when we get back to playing european football. So let's take a step back for a while and analyse what went wrong during the domestic season. Apart from last season , I think we made a strong start to every single season only to fade after Christmas and New Year. So with the right signing and the right people on board th coaching capacity , I sincerely hope that the fault can be rectified. And this could be a good season to test whether a player who signs for Liverpool comes here for the love to Liverpool or otherwise. There are certainly many factors that can be analysed this season without the distractions of European for only 1 season. Just treat this as a holiday from Europe.


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Originally Posted By: Porklet
I am not certain about fatigue in regards to playing two matches a week. With the youth we have it shouldn't impact us too terribly.

I would've liked to see them play in the Europa League for three reasons:

1. All be it a longshot, the winner of Europa League gets an automatic Champions League bid.


2. Playing time for our "wealth" of youth to gain experience and new talent joining the club to become more acclimated.

3. One of my football channels televises Europa League games all the time. Since Liverpool is a big name club they showed a majority of LFC's games. That's a number of matches I won't get to see. It may be selfish, but it's true.


Unfortunately the winner does not qualify for the champions league, if that was the case, I think we would be there by now through that route.


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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
If i'm brutally honest, i don't think the players tried their best in the games against Spurs & Villa. I'm not suggesting they threw the matches at all. But, they didn't seem to 'want it' as much. This would tell me that most of them maybe didn't fancy playng every Thursday in the Europa League and Sunday in the Premiership. If this is the case and most of the players didn't want Europa League, then i don't see why any prospective players would be any different.

The aim is clear for this season - [b]to get back into the top 4 [/b]- and having no Europa League games as a distraction/hindrance can only aid that, in my opinion.



That would be a great achievement. Bette r still if we get a domestic cup plus the top 4 placing...


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Originally Posted By: Porklet
I am not certain about fatigue in regards to playing two matches a week. With the youth we have it shouldn't impact us too terribly.

I would've liked to see them play in the Europa League for three reasons:

1. All be it a longshot, the winner of Europa League gets an automatic Champions League bid.


2. Playing time for our "wealth" of youth to gain experience and new talent joining the club to become more acclimated.

3. One of my football channels televises Europa League games all the time. Since Liverpool is a big name club they showed a majority of LFC's games. That's a number of matches I won't get to see. It may be selfish, but it's true.


Unfortunately the winner does not qualify for the champions league, if that was the case, I think we would be there by now through that route.



Cool - so we won the europa league last season did we? You learn something new everyday....

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Well no we didn't win it, I aint stupid neither I am blind but at least the sulkers we had at that time could of had more motivation to win so they can qualify. We could of won it but it just seems the players wanted to get knocked out so they don't play 12 to 15 games in order to win the damn thing.


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if uefa had any sense they would award qualification to the winner as it would certainly make it a lot more competitive. you only have to look at the record of english teams in the last few years with the exception of Fulham who went out from the start to win it but Aston Villa and the likes only saw it as a distraction. If the lure of champions league football was on offer there would be better games and more money to be had for all

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
if uefa had any sense they would award qualification to the winner as it would certainly make it a lot more competitive. you only have to look at the record of english teams in the last few years with the exception of Fulham who went out from the start to win it but Aston Villa and the likes only saw it as a distraction. If the lure of champions league football was on offer there would be better games and more money to be had for all


I agree. The UEFA Cup used to have prestige attached to it, but ever since the expansion of the Champions League (ie: it went from League winners qualifying, to the top 4 in the EPL qualifying), it has become much of a nothing competition. Revamping it as the Europa League hasn't had the desired effect (although it was always just a money-making idea), so i think they really need to act to make it more attractive to teams. It comes to something when teams actually want to finish lower it the table to avoid it! Awarding a CL place for it would be a great idea, and one i'm surprised they haven't thought of yet. It'd be a huge incentive and motivation for all competing teams.


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