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I was refering to Rafa's @ch13v3nn3nt$ grin


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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Legendary post by Legend, as lumba said, unfortunately people see right through those good things and just target him on the bad things he has done. Roy will never and I mean never will come close to the achievements of Benitez, did not connect with the fans as Benitez did, while also making worser signings (konchesky/poulsen). Am sorry but those people defending hodgson just look silly.

there is no way konchesky and poulson are worse signings than the dross benitez brought to the club and hodgson whos record cannot be defended did not waste millions and millions on players like benitez did who the club cant chase , and people go on about hodgson's press conferences saying the wrong things ok maybe he did , but he doidnt cry , moan ,RANT, wash the clubs dirty linen in public , to fuel his own ego like mr benitez , yes benitez brought sucess we all know but he also failed and failed miserebly , i always see the quote we finished 2nd , well if it wasnt for benitez crying , ranting and then changing team IE stoke away , wigan away , middlesboro away there only win , liverpool would have won the league , the diabolical outburst only hours after his tactics lost liverpool its 6th european cup in athens was an utter disgrace and well out of context and out of order , yes benitez deserves praise but he is not this golden person with this bright halo over his heads this saint like whiter than white person NOT BY A LONG CHALK and until people get this into there heads liverpool will never ever move on dalglish or not , i can vision it if it doesnt work for dalglish the kop would be calling for benitez and i am sorry that would be a shameful act just as much as the calling for the dismissal of roy hodgson after 2 games last season .

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Legendary post by Legend, as lumba said, unfortunately people see right through those good things and just target him on the bad things he has done. Roy will never and I mean never will come close to the achievements of Benitez, did not connect with the fans as Benitez did, while also making worser signings (konchesky/poulsen). Am sorry but those people defending hodgson just look silly.

there is no way konchesky and poulson are worse signings than the dross benitez brought to the club and hodgson whos record cannot be defended did not waste millions and millions on players like benitez did who the club cant chase , and people go on about hodgson's press conferences saying the wrong things ok maybe he did , but he doidnt cry , moan ,RANT, wash the clubs dirty linen in public , to fuel his own ego like mr benitez , yes benitez brought sucess we all know but he also failed and failed miserebly , i always see the quote we finished 2nd , well if it wasnt for benitez crying , ranting and then changing team IE stoke away , wigan away , middlesboro away there only win , liverpool would have won the league , the diabolical outburst only hours after his tactics lost liverpool its 6th european cup in athens was an utter disgrace and well out of context and out of order , yes benitez deserves praise but he is not this golden person with this bright halo over his heads this saint like whiter than white person NOT BY A LONG CHALK and until people get this into there heads liverpool will never ever move on dalglish or not , i can vision it if it doesnt work for dalglish the kop would be calling for benitez and i am sorry that would be a shameful act just as much as the calling for the dismissal of roy hodgson after 2 games last season .
Total agree, Benitez may have won us a European Cup but he almost certainly lost us another with those shameful, negative tactics he employed in Athens. Benitez set the Club back years and we are still suffering with his terrible transfer record even now Degen, Insua and even Javanovic who Benitez made an agreement with where we could'nt get out of is down to him which shows he still damaged the Club after he left, 80 grand a week wages disgrace. He is a very clever man with his mind games, this was proved with his donation to the Hillsborough fund knowing full well in turn it would increase pressure on Hicks and Gillette who had just sacked him and also the crocodile tears at the Hillsborough Service recently. What fans need to ask themselves is why is he still hanging around the Club and still living in the area if he has no ulterior motives.

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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Legendary post by Legend, as lumba said, unfortunately people see right through those good things and just target him on the bad things he has done. Roy will never and I mean never will come close to the achievements of Benitez, did not connect with the fans as Benitez did, while also making worser signings (konchesky/poulsen). Am sorry but those people defending hodgson just look silly.

there is no way konchesky and poulson are worse signings than the dross benitez brought to the club and hodgson whos record cannot be defended did not waste millions and millions on players like benitez did who the club cant chase , and people go on about hodgson's press conferences saying the wrong things ok maybe he did , but he doidnt cry , moan ,RANT, wash the clubs dirty linen in public , to fuel his own ego like mr benitez , yes benitez brought sucess we all know but he also failed and failed miserebly , i always see the quote we finished 2nd , well if it wasnt for benitez crying , ranting and then changing team IE stoke away , wigan away , middlesboro away there only win , liverpool would have won the league , the diabolical outburst only hours after his tactics lost liverpool its 6th european cup in athens was an utter disgrace and well out of context and out of order , yes benitez deserves praise but he is not this golden person with this bright halo over his heads this saint like whiter than white person NOT BY A LONG CHALK and until people get this into there heads liverpool will never ever move on dalglish or not , i can vision it if it doesnt work for dalglish the kop would be calling for benitez and i am sorry that would be a shameful act just as much as the calling for the dismissal of roy hodgson after 2 games last season .
Total agree, Benitez may have won us a European Cup but he almost certainly lost us another with those shameful, negative tactics he employed in Athens. Benitez set the Club back years and we are still suffering with his terrible transfer record even now Degen, Insua and even Javanovic who Benitez made an agreement with where we could'nt get out of is down to him which shows he still damaged the Club after he left, 80 grand a week wages disgrace. He is a very clever man with his mind games, this was proved with his donation to the Hillsborough fund knowing full well in turn it would increase pressure on Hicks and Gillette who had just sacked him and also the crocodile tears at the Hillsborough Service recently. What fans need to ask themselves is why is he still hanging around the Club and still living in the area if he has no ulterior motives.
100% correct RED NS yes its easy to slag hodgson off maybe he wasnt the right man for the job but he had no bagged and not underhanded tactics for his own personal gain not like benitez , and if people took mr benitez for what he was and isthe club might be able to move on , yes praise for 2005 and 06 yes rightly so but also stick for all the rest of the badness he brought in what i call the trilogy of badness hicks gillett and benitez all in there different ways very very bad for LFC .

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fazack, you have no case. You come across as a tool (sorry but you do). Rafa will always be remembered as a great liverpool manager whilst hodepodge will be remembered as a mistsake. a pisspoor one at that.

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Originally Posted By: merseymack
fazack, you have no case. You come across as a tool (sorry but you do). Rafa will always be remembered as a great liverpool manager whilst hodepodge will be remembered as a mistsake. a pisspoor one at that.
what the abuse for mate , i am not backing roy his record cannot be defened but if you believe benitez was a great manager in the mould of fagan , paisley, shankly, and dalglish then its you who is a deluded , sorry benitez was part of the clubs downfall and trying to forget it is just like putting your head in the sand , as i say he deserves praise for his success like other manasgers who brought cups to liverpool , evans, souness , houiller all deserve praise , but also they like benitez failed but unlike benitez they never brought the club down to a low ebb like it was at the end of last season along with the owners a trilogy of badness , but if your one of those who thinks he was great fine but not me great is shankly,paisley,fagan,dalglish .

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Faz, he was great but I think no one is praising him in the same line as Shankley and Paisley because that will be absurd. The man deserves respect however, far more respect than hodgson because although he brought us down to a lowly 7th in the league in his last season, he did bring trophies as well as great memories with him. He made more bad signings than good ones but at the end of they day I think more liverpool fans respect him for what he did.


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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Faz, he was great but I think no one is praising him in the same line as Shankley and Paisley because that will be absurd. The man deserves respect however, far more respect than hodgson because although he brought us down to a lowly 7th in the league in his last season, he did bring trophies as well as great memories with him. He made more bad signings than good ones but at the end of they day I think more liverpool fans respect him for what he did.
So you think Benitez or Dalglish would fare any better than Hodgson do you. How much better would they of done with the Club in and out of Court all the time 5 mins after walking into the Job, No serious money to spend on a team lucky to finish 7th season just gone and sinking faster then the titanic, a disilusioned Gerrard, a Sulking Torres, Mascherano going on strike in only your second game in charge and the fans hating you after just one game and singing for an old relic in the same pityful way the geordies do for Keegan. Listen I am not going to defend Hodgson because the man never helped himself but for people to use the word hate for a feller who done us a favour in taking the job in the first place when no serious manager would touch us with a barge pole is so far wide of the mark it's untrue.

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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Faz, he was great but I think no one is praising him in the same line as Shankley and Paisley because that will be absurd. The man deserves respect however, far more respect than hodgson because although he brought us down to a lowly 7th in the league in his last season, he did bring trophies as well as great memories with him. He made more bad signings than good ones but at the end of they day I think more liverpool fans respect him for what he did.
sorry greatness is not just how many cups you win or dont win its how you conduct yourself in the position you have , and sorry yes the success he brought does deserve praise but the antics out of him in the latter years takes all qudos away from mr benitez .

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