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agree with menace ...wtf this 35m giant we signed in jan will do in pass n move.cant just rely on this n waste money on crap players..i hope we dnt waste money like that..we want fookin matchwinners..cl or no cl.. I remember watching a certain John Toshack and we played the pass and move game then so I can't see why we can't now. i hope we do...left with no other choice.gotta support the king.. but if u think kd is going to replicate that then its gonna be more than just pass n move.ynwa
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And the shout about match winning players. Man u who won the league how many watch winning players do they have? Its just rooney. But still they win cuz of hard workers like valencia and park. And this is what downing would provide us. rooney is match winner.u are funny
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agree with menace ...wtf this 35m giant we signed in jan will do in pass n move.cant just rely on this n waste money on crap players..i hope we dnt waste money like that..we want fookin matchwinners..cl or no cl.. I remember watching a certain John Toshack and we played the pass and move game then so I can't see why we can't now. i hope we do...left with no other choice.gotta support the king.. but if u think kd is going to replicate that then its gonna be more than just pass n move.ynwa I don't but his targets aso far are players who can play wide or in a three man midfield (Henderson, Downing). I don't think KD is going to try and replicate a Toshack/Keegan partenrship but what he has done is given us options to what we havn't had in previous years when reguarding attacking.
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And the shout about match winning players. Man u who won the league how many watch winning players do they have? Its just rooney. But still they win cuz of hard workers like valencia and park. And this is what downing would provide us. Yep would agree Nawaz, I think Downing is a good player, not outstanding but good! and you don't need 11 stars on a team at once, a well organized team of good players who are motivated and have leadership on the field can and do win the PL, and can finish in the top 4. I would gladly settle for such a team given our current situation. That however is not to say I wouldn't love to see players such as Johnson, Hazard, Mata, etc, etc, in LFC! I would!
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utd have players that can score from all over the park. chicharito was there main man last season what a steal he was for 8 mil, then berba had a good scoring season, throw into that rooney coming back into form at the right time and nani thats why they won the league. Add to this dependable players like evans and smalling to relace vidic and ferdy. Utd have a solid 1st team and a very dependable 2nd string, our bench last season was awful at times.
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Well guys , I believe that we should purchase Downing even if it cost us more than what we believe he is worth. We should just strike when the iron is hot. Not every season our owner FSG will come out with the cash. So while he is still willing to stump out the cash , why not just make use of it? By the time next season if we do not spend this season , then there might even be a serious shortage of players be it first teamer and back up.
What I'm trying to say is just spend as long as the owner agree. Once he pulls the handbrake on the transfer budget , then that's it. We had a bad experience with G & H , so just hopefully history does not repeat itself. HOPEFULLY...
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Well guys , I believe that we should purchase Downing even if it cost us more than what we believe he is worth. We should just strike when the iron is hot. Not every season our owner FSG will come out with the cash. So while he is still willing to stump out the cash , why not just make use of it? By the time next season if we do not spend this season , then there might even be a serious shortage of players be it first teamer and back up.
What I'm trying to say is just spend as long as the owner agree. Once he pulls the handbrake on the transfer budget , then that's it. We had a bad experience with G & H , so just hopefully history does not repeat itself. HOPEFULLY...
Just My Thoughts YNWA... I agree completely. While signing the likes of Downing, Adam, and Henderson don't blow me away I have to remind myself we don't have that far to go. I am not entirely unconvinced that a full campaign of Luis Suarez might be enough to bridge the gap between 6th and 4th place. We have to proceed under the assumption that we can achieve this goal, however lofty. Because, if we do we'll have a lot more pieces in place when we do have the opportunity to land players like Mata, Hazard, and whomever. If we don't start building now, even from the bottom up, it will take us that much longer to reach our goal. Or, we'll continue to flounder and have to make the same types of moves next year without CL football as a lure. In regards to Downing, or any left winger capable of making quality crosses into the box, it might be the only way to get the full value out of Carroll. It would be almost impossible for him to be a 36 million pound striker when he's receiving 10 dollar crosses. The value of a player like Downing is relative.
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Firstly, I wanna compliment the original poster, great post and a good topic for debate. Javing said that, I have to say I disagree. Whilst Downing could be a good addition to our squad, signing foreign players of a higer calibre can bring quick success. I know that many out there say that they are not proven in the EPL etc. However, if you look at the likes of Chelsea and city who have spent big on foreign players, you will see that they have gotten an instant return. If a player is world class, he is world class no matter what league he is in. It might take him a couple of months to settle in but they will perform. When you say the likes of Adam are proven in the premier league, I think that is debatable. He has had 1 good season in the EPL, before that, tbh, he was nothing special and I think even he is aware of it as he made a switch to Blackpool, a championship side. So, while he might have been an uncovered gem, he might also be a player who was in form last season and trying to sell himself well. I am not saying he isn't worth a punt, don't get me wrong, but there are players out there who have proven themselves in the top flight for more than 1 year.
As far as your question concerning Mata/Downing goes, the reason I think that Mata won't come if we get Downing is the fact that I believe Mata is our primary target and Downing a fall back option. They are 2 players who play in simillar positions and I just cant see us spending 30-40 million on 2 players that play in the same position. If we sign DOwning, I believe that signals that we are out of the race for Mata, which is why I am quite satisfied with the silence surrounding transfers at the moment. After reading John Henry's tweets last night, I am quite happy about the direction the club is heading in. He seems to have his head on straight and is being realistic about things. I am not particularly worried about maaybe missing out on some signings as I believe that means we have taken a stance where we will not be held to ransom by other clubs valuations of certain players. I am not one of those who will support KK just because he is a liverpool legend and who will say him and Comolli can do no wrong, but at the moment I have complete faith in what they are doing.
Whilst I might not agree with some of their signings, I am well aware that they know a lot more about the footballing world and what liverpool need, better than I and most fans do.
Once again, great post and I would love to hear your guys views.
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Downing plays more on the right wing tho so if we get both mata and him theres no need to put one on the bench.
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