KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum MEIRELES OFF NOW TOO!

Er.... a typical liverpool fan wouldn't start moaning about 'typical liverpool fans' so you are not a liverpool fan or you are an 'atypical' liverpoool fan yourself m8

I wouldn't be surprised if he left and that the King sanctioned his departure.

Three days before the last game of the season there were some comments in the papers attributed to him and his agent about a pay rise. This is not the way to do it. He should've kept it in house and private. In my opinion, this is exactly the sort of thing that The King will stamp out.

Similarly, if Reina has a buyout clause in his contract then this should also be removed or we should consider selling him. Otherwise, everytime the team hits a poor run of form all the negative speculation about the clause will return (possibility of joining arch rivals at cut price etc).

We want committed players who have a passion for LFC and who, if they do leave, will leave on mutually acceptable terms. Not players who make direct or indirect threats, talk through the press and have a destabilising affect on the club.

Good post ! i agree! dont let players hold us to ransom.

good point Armitage, interesting words jim uses there "They dont like...about their club....so they disregard it...All they want is spin..." Hmmm interesting!

don't forget mighty, that can work both ways , ie if the club is negotiating with a player already and things arent going well they can release ' a player X demands more money story to the daily rag, i 'm not saying lfc do that I don't even know but we are all manipulated by the media

for a start it is a rumour, however if it does happen i dont see what the real issue is in selling him. the club is preparing for the future that means buying quality young players and developing a squad, which will eventually be able to challenge for the title and hopefully more. miereles is at prime value at the min but is also injury plagued. it makes sense to sell him to make way for more youthful players before he injures himself to the point where he becomes worthless. the rumour i heard expected him to go for 14m which will be a 2m profit but as well as that i dare say there would be considerable difference between his wages and the likes of the more youthful players.

if gerard comes back as good as he is saying he feels then i dont see where miereles would fit in because i dont feel they can play in the same team together, and they proved that in any games where they did start together. miereles' best games where when gerard was injured in my opinion.

as much as i want us to be able to mount a title challenge this season, it would be unrealistic to expect it as like any team it will take time for them to gel as a unit. i will settle for a top 4 spot this season if im being honest and expect a serious title challenge the season after.

the club arent just buying young unknown players, they are buying talent which have proven themselves in the premier league. they already have premier league experience and proven themselves as more than capable.

as far as transfer prices go i feel other clubs are almost ripping the arse out of their valuations of players and in fairness the club has to take a certain degree of responsibility for that because of their 35m purchase of Carroll imo. i think carroll will come good but newcastle definately got a great deal considering he almost left for 4m last summer. his purchase has set a precedent im afraid

Atypical certainly but as i said before i didn't mean to come across as so aggressively negative and whilst i'm partly playing devil's advocate i do have some serious concerns about the players we are being linked with and the fees involved and am surprised that so many people who are obviously as passionate about liverpool as iam, don't share those concerns

I have a theory on the pay raise issue. I have a feeling he came into LFC on low wage in a handshake agreement to "prove" he could play in the prem at a high level. If he really is paid a pittance compared to Joe Dole, then yes, good lord get him to a point that's fair as he was one of the best we had last year. Much like any workplace, how would you feel if you did 10 times the work but was paid half what some slob who cant even stay fit to do his job? He has been nothing but good for our club and his intelligent movement of the ball is a bonus. And to use the "commitment" argument against him is silly. Raul played heart and soul for us last year. And got beat up to show for it once clubs realized he was a key link from the midfield to Suarez. How about we show players who play all out some loyalty as well?

Rick Parry...didn't he force Robbie Keane on us? At least I always believed that..

yeah robbie kean only got 50 goals for eire

Top post. Raul and Lucas were our tickers in midfield last season, especially when Gerrard was injured and with Gerrard's age his injuries will be a lot more frequent, need to keep both Raul and Aqualani to fill his void. Henderson is a great buy for the future but is obviously not ready to start the majority of games for us just yet. If this is true and we're getting rid of Raul for Adam we're really losing out...