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Hello Fellow Redmen,

Was wondering if any of you feel similar to me in the following respects.

I'm concerned with the amounts of money we're paying. We seem to be paying for potential rather than the already finished article.

35M for Carroll? If he hits a run of form for the next 6 years of 20 a season he'd still only likely be worth 35M to some other team so I don't get that one at all.

I am glad he is ours though as I rate him but like so many of you I just thought the valuation was 10M (at least) too high, irrespective of the Winter Market mark up.

Henderson at 20M (with or without N'gog). Love the player, love the potential. Probably got ourselves the player closest in ability to Wilshere but 20M? At least 6-8M too much once again and I feel that the same applies again as to what I said about Carroll's future worth.

Really worried we're after Downing. 10M for a good player but he doesn't score enough (3 or 4 a season) and there in lies my other gripe.

United have better players than Downing already and are going to get Young who smashes in 8 - 10 goals plus loads of assists every season. He's not better than Nani and probably only a bit better than Valencia. That is proper strength in depth!

And instead of resting on their laurels they're adding Jones who snubbed us for them and maybe Nasri (I really hope that one falls through as that would be ominous).

Sorry to ramble on. Just a worried Red. I don't expect us to overhaul them anytime soon but don't want to get blown away and finish 20 points behind anymore, either!

We need to push through a deal for Juan Mata. Even though he lacks Prem experience he averages a goal every 4 games and assists loads, is fast, dynamic and has the skill to get us off our seats! The guy is David Silva but a version that can actually finish in front of goal!

Spend 25M on him, 5M on Clichy as rumoured and 8M for Dann who is at the right age for us (24) and ready to step in for Agger when he gets injured! And he's a scouser to boot so he will give us that extra 10% that others wouldn't (a la Carra).

Let me know your thoughts guys!

YNWA

valencia is better then nani

I'd rather be spending cash on the likes of Henderson & Carroll than sigining Voronin and Jovanovic on free transfers.

I'm not concerned in the slightest, Fergi has realisticly got 3 years left in him. United are crippled by debit and have a team as old as the hills.

I am slightly concerned but we have to consider what Kenny wants and it seems evident that the plan by keeny was to sign Britich players to have a britich spine like Birmingham had this summer but the flair and skills of other nationalities.
In that respect since England are so poor at the moment we're going for the top potential stars but the 2 or 3rd choice players aren't world class players. i.e Jones and Dann.

What i hate about people crying about 35 million for Carroll, Comolli said in January that the deal was

"Liverpool will pay Newcastle 15 million less than what we get for Torres"

So even though that's what we paid its not really his value. Maybe 20 mil for Carroll in a normal market. So trust in the King.

We haven't signed Downing yet. And I have heard many managers before rumoured to get Downing, Barry etc

I think Kenny is keeping the superstar players under the wrap and might sneak in Mata or so, but but there is no point complaining about the price if Henderson and Caroll, deals been done. Let them perform

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I firmly believe Kenny is gearing Liverpool to be a viable contender for a decade, not short term. Henderson and Carroll are foundational pieces if they achieve their potential. Yes the prices seem outlandish but English premium is what it is. We will miss out on some or hit on some. Who knows? Maybe Carroll doesn't pan out and Henderson does. We have no clue til they really settle in. Much better than quick fix freebies. And moving on Suarez shows they have no fear to go big when they believe in the talent. And the three of them are 20, 22, and 24. Its gonna be a good long run. Aiming for a comfortable top 4 spot next year to open up our transfer options for the most important transfer market next summer with Europe beckoning. Going to overpay to get there until then.

And any winger brought in is just buying us 2-3 years til Sterling is ready. At that time is when I believe we will unleash hell on the premiership.

oh jeez not again...

And Nani may very well be on his bike - otherwise there is no justification whatsoever for Fergie to even consider buying Young when he has a massive problem in central midfield.

I don't know about all this "won't catch United" talk. If Fergie continues to mess around in the transfer market buying players for his bench we won't need to "catch" them at all; they'll come back to us. To use a motor-racing analogy, Man U, Arsenal, and Chelsea are on worn rubber (for various reasons), while we're in the pits getting new slicks. No heat in our tyres yet either, but that's just a matter of time.