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technically she'd be a ladyboy.

My point is that Rafa took a very ordinary Liverpool team to the european cup final and won it against all the odds.

Bet you celebrated that night?!


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no im not contradicting myself, last season real madrid had no one to replace alonso if he was injured. next season they will. real madrid have benzema, adebayor and kaka if they wanted to change the shape a little to come in for higuain. so no higuain was not as important to madrid as alonso.


Your are contradicting yourself. If Alsonso for so influential for Madrid then couldnt be replaced.

Who scored the goals for Madrid last season after Higuain became injured? It certainly wasnt Benzema or Adebayor.


messi, xavi and ronaldo are the only players i'd say are anything like irreplaceable.

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are you living on cloud 9 the man was pushed out the door over the garreth barry deal which fell back on mr benitez face and he was a great servent to liverpool and a class player and the type of player he is he could carry on playing at that level for another 4/5 years and me personaly id have him bace in the morning....


I'm not the one living on cloud nine. Which season did Rafa try to get Barry, during which season did Alonso play well, and during which season did Alonso leave?

Once you have your facts straight you will find that an average midfielder got a rocket in the form of an attempt to replace him, the result of which was that he played extremely well the next season (form which he has maintained, showing he was clearly lazy to some degree prior to the events), and only THEN did he leave. Had he left during the same window as Rafa tried to sign Barry I would agree with those who believe he was pushed out the door. But he didn't. Based on no prior evidence he thought he was bigger than the club, that the manager had no right to choose who should play in his team. He took his opportunity to prove his doubters wrong, spent an entire season engineering a move back to Spain, and then deserted us when we began to dream of winning the title.

He could have buried the hatchet with Rafa, or at least let bygones be bygones, but he chose not to. That doesn't smack of someone who cares about Liverpool football club and its fans to me, so the more he pull on our heartstrings the less I like him. And I didn't like him much to start with because he was nothing special until Rafa tried to sign Barry. Alonso showed me nothing to suggest he would die for the LFC shirt, and that's not the kind of player we need. He talked the talk, but he hasn't walked the walk. Now that we look like a team again, and given the fiasco that Real's season turned into, I'm hardly surprised to hear this kind of talk from such a turncoat. His conduct was as unprofessional as that of certain other players who have left recently, he's simply been more diplomatic about it, and I hope that Kenny is never tempted to sign this traitor.
Once you have your facts straight you will find that the most of the team were average before the season we finished second and you tell me what player would want to stay at a club when the manager was literally pushing him out the door to bring in another player and when the deal for that player fell through and NOT BECAUSE ALONSO WAS PLAYING HIS BEST STUFF it was then that benitez was changing his mind to keep him, AND if benitez got barry then alonso was a gonner and he knew that so to call him a traitor is a load of bull [oops]...


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Ronaldo the ladyboy gone missing In big games irreplaceable? Don't make me laugh.


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bet you celebrated when alonso scored the third to get us level

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Originally Posted By: euro5times
bet you celebrated when alonso scored the third to get us level


Did I say at any point I didnt like Alonso? And yes I celebrate every goal scored by a Liverpool player and no I dont slag any of our past managers off. Particulary ones that have taken us to two european cupfinals in 5 years.


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I would have Alonso back, but I wouldn't have Rafa back, never liked his approach to the game, way too negative for me and didn't like his man management style either! I accept he had some success but I think he wouldn't win the PL in 1000 years his approach just didn't suit the PL and he was too damn stubborn to adapt!

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Your right ,with the owners we had Rafa would never have won the league.


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Yeah they were something else alright!! But I don't remember the owners having much to do with team selection, tactics or what went on in the dressing room or the pitch. I think that was pretty much under Rafa's control. It wasn't that he had no money to spend, he did and the record shows he didn't spend it very well as far as winning the PL is concerned. I think Rafa's forte was europe and to be fair to him he did well there, but I would maintain he never got to grips with the PL game, even though we did get a runner up spot...once, under him.

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And qualified for the cl bar 1 year with the second choice players he settled for.

And before you turn this into yet another rafa debate i'd save yer fingers.

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