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the boy with the perfect pass won't come back i mean come on he plays for the biggest club name in the world and gets a regular start and they love him over there aswell
exactly - he's just being clever and rolling out the old cliches about wanting to give respect to the fans and all that rubbish players always come out with whenever trhey are interviewed - to make them appear the good blokes most us know they aren't Real Madrid is one of the biggest and most succesful clubs in the world and for any Spaniard - well any Spaniard on the Right of the political divide - playing for the Fascistic General's team is a dream come true - the pinnacle of any career Alonso would grace any side
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Agree with this. Didn't see the interview but read the bits on the offal, and it sounded like two-faced bullsh!t to me. "It was so difficult - the fans wanted me to stay!" If he cared so much about the fans the decision to stay would have been easy.
Face it - he walked. Just like Owen. Just like the rest who were not as Red as they said they were. He could have made his peace with Rafa over the Barry incident, or at least set it aside as one expects a professional footballer to. He could have said, "I've proven this season that I'm the best player in England in this position, so how about cutting me some slack?" But no. He chose not to. He's not welcome back, as far as I'm concerned. would you have stayed at the club if the manager had told you that you where not wanted?
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Exactly Danny.. nobody on this forum would play for a side where the manager didn't want you.. especially knowing how good you are..
I agree with those saying Alonso is been clever, but it is clear from any interview he has done Liverpool will also be in his heart and i do think he would return if anything happened at Real..
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I don't want him back personally. I don't think he's as innocent as others make out. He always wanted to go back to Spain, said so when he arrived, and his leaving caused us a lot of disruption, led to many fans (and players?) doubting the manager, and Alonso pretended that he didn't want to leave. Don't believe it.
HE was a good player, but I don't want to go back there, and he's not getting any younger. Agree with this. Didn't see the interview but read the bits on the offal, and it sounded like two-faced bullsh!t to me. "It was so difficult - the fans wanted me to stay!" If he cared so much about the fans the decision to stay would have been easy. Face it - he walked. Just like Owen. Just like the rest who were not as Red as they said they were. He could have made his peace with Rafa over the Barry incident, or at least set it aside as one expects a professional footballer to. He could have said, "I've proven this season that I'm the best player in England in this position, so how about cutting me some slack?" But no. He chose not to. He's not welcome back, as far as I'm concerned. " Didn't see the interview but read the bits on the offal, and it sounded like two-faced bullsh!t to me". i think yr being very harsh in saying that especially as you didnt see the interview. i watched it and thought he seem very sincere. in the rafa alonso debate i am firmly on alonsos side. the way he was treated by rafa was completely wrong. most other players would have sulked all season and have a bad effect on team moral but alonso being the professional he is he just got on with the job. thundry if you can try to watch the interview,its pretty good. i enjoyed watching it anyway
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are you living on cloud 9 the man was pushed out the door over the garreth barry deal which fell back on mr benitez face and he was a great servent to liverpool and a class player and the type of player he is he could carry on playing at that level for another 4/5 years and me personaly id have him bace in the morning.... I'm not the one living on cloud nine. Which season did Rafa try to get Barry, during which season did Alonso play well, and during which season did Alonso leave? Once you have your facts straight you will find that an average midfielder got a rocket in the form of an attempt to replace him, the result of which was that he played extremely well the next season (form which he has maintained, showing he was clearly lazy to some degree prior to the events), and only THEN did he leave. Had he left during the same window as Rafa tried to sign Barry I would agree with those who believe he was pushed out the door. But he didn't. Based on no prior evidence he thought he was bigger than the club, that the manager had no right to choose who should play in his team. He took his opportunity to prove his doubters wrong, spent an entire season engineering a move back to Spain, and then deserted us when we began to dream of winning the title. He could have buried the hatchet with Rafa, or at least let bygones be bygones, but he chose not to. That doesn't smack of someone who cares about Liverpool football club and its fans to me, so the more he pull on our heartstrings the less I like him. And I didn't like him much to start with because he was nothing special until Rafa tried to sign Barry. Alonso showed me nothing to suggest he would die for the LFC shirt, and that's not the kind of player we need. He talked the talk, but he hasn't walked the walk. Now that we look like a team again, and given the fiasco that Real's season turned into, I'm hardly surprised to hear this kind of talk from such a turncoat. His conduct was as unprofessional as that of certain other players who have left recently, he's simply been more diplomatic about it, and I hope that Kenny is never tempted to sign this traitor.
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i think yr being very harsh in saying that especially as you didnt see the interview. i watched it and thought he seem very sincere. in the rafa alonso debate i am firmly on alonsos side. the way he was treated by rafa was completely wrong. most other players would have sulked all season and have a bad effect on team moral but alonso being the professional he is he just got on with the job. I have no problem with him feeling hurt by Rafa. Quite honestly having decisions go against one are part of professional team sport, particularly if you're an average first team player (which he was). I have a problem with him having finally demonstrated ability that made a mockery of Rafa's intent to sell him, and then walking anyway. He got on with the job, and that's a credit to him, but then decided he didn't want the job anymore. So how can he say he still wants the job now? How can he say he still cares about the club when he chose to no longer be part of it? Maybe it's just taken him longer than Torres or Mascherano to realize that those who leave Liverpool have already had their day in the sun.
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your a disgrace..how on earth can call xabi a traitor..the man is total class and handled the situation with the utmost respect. he was shafted by benitez,who was a robot with an eating disorder. dunk posted at the time that xabi wanted some sort of reconcile with that lunatic but of course nobody could talk to that ego-maniac who had it in for xabi for wanting to be with his wife when she was in labour. xabi was brilliant for us,he had an injury hit season and wanted to be with his pregnant wife so wafa wanted to replace him with a much weaker player.. and to show where wafa's philosophy was, at the time masceranho was kicking up looking for a move to barca ,but wafa pushed the boat out to keep him -a nothing defensive player. wafa should have built the team around xabi ,but he would inexplicably drop him for lucas every now and again,throwing away points.
would welcome alonso back with open arms. Look, I'm not suggesting he didn't have help on his way out the door. Rafa made mistakes as well. But part of being a football manager (a successful one anyway) is that you're the boss, not some guy whose contract you hold. People don't question Fergie, do they? Those that do are shown the door, including his stars, eg Beckham. Including people like Alonso who can't be arsed to play to their full potential until you try to sell them. I'm not saying Rafa was right, but Alonso is not as innocent as you suggest.
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Alonso had one good season ( which was his last ) when the whole team was on fire. The lad was playing for a move. Anyone who get £30mil for him was and is a genius. He's hardly pulling up trees for Madrid is he?
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Alonso had one good season ( which was his last ) when the whole team was on fire. The lad was playing for a move. Anyone who get £30mil for him was and is a genius. He's hardly pulling up trees for Madrid is he? kills me to say it but, i agree with murph here. alonso was average and rafa had every right to look to sell him specially with the new home grown rule coming at the time. and then the last season everything in that team was pretty much perfect. tbf he has carried on his last season with us form at madrid, behind ronaldo their best and most important player
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Higuain was a far more important player for Madrid than Alonso. Thats why they came up short in the league when he became injured.
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