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yes but he has'nt won the medals has he and thats down to Gerrard himself. If Gerrard wanted to be the best player in the world he would of left Liverpool by now and played for a team capable of providing him with a platform to win the games major honours, if Steven Gerrard finishes his career with just one champions league medal it will be down to himself, nobody else to blame. Steven Gerrard does look good in a poor Liverpool team yes, but if you put him in a midfield of say Chelsea with players like Essien, Lampard and Ballack e.t.c. he would still be a boss player but he would'nt shine as much because he would be on a similar level as them, Souness shone in a team full of jewells like Dalglish, McDermott, Ray Kennedy, Jimmy Case, Hansen, Rush and Lawrenson and alongside Kenny looked to be on a different level again, thats the difference. Steven Gerrard is a fantastic all round player deffo,best in the world all round without a shadow of doubt, but not world class because he has not achieved enough in the game and not special in just one position.

Stevie G is a great player, but he could only be world class in another team; a team where Lucas and co have no part; where Benitez is a name you laugh at, and not have to answer to.

Benitez OUT.

Steven Gerrard is world class. only a knobhead or an evertonian would say he is not.

Steven Gerrard is not world class only a g0b sh1te, out of town supporter or fan under the the of 15 would say he is.

He has been consistently good for the last 5 seasons.
He can play in several positions and has the winning mentality

i feel the fact he is a local lad, he feels for the club much more passionately than maybe a spanish player would. i feel stevie will appreciate the fact Kenny is Back, he would appreciate the fact kenny is back much much more than a mascherano would.

he has the talent, the skill, and the desire, but the contributing factor is he is a local lad.

I doubt he will feel and perform as passionately for any other club but liverpool.

if steven Gerrard had a winning mentality as you say he would not be playing for a club that will not provide him with a platform to win the games biggest honours. Alan Shearer was in the same situation when he left Blackburn, Shearer picked his love for his home town club over the chance to win the games major honours which is very honourable but at the same time very foolish, so please dont tell me about players who have a winning mentality because Gerrard and Shearer did'nt have it.

We are talking about individuals mate. Philip Neville won many medals while playing for a great United team but he is hardly a special player. Conversely, Shearer and Mat Le Tissier were great players that never won much..

Souness was a great player in a great team but in terms of match winning performance and sheer influence, he is behind Gerrard. Just.

but if you put Souness in the current Liverpool team he would look even better than Gerrard does, Gerrard looks good in a very average Liverpool team if you put Gerrard in a top midfield alongside the likes of Messi, Ronaldo. Ribery or Kaka he would not look as good, Souness shone amomgst great players and thats the difference. Phil Neville was a very ordinary player yes amongst some fantastic United players but the thing is once they both finish playing Neville will of had a better career than Gerrard because he achieved more in honours in the game than Gerrard even though individualy he is not a better player, If you ask any player what they would want individual more honours like player of the year awards e.t.c. or European Cups and Premier League titles they would all say the latter. Its all about what you win in the game which counts and sets true world class players apart from just very good ones.

this is coming from a feller who wants Zola as manager, your a joke mate, as well as a joke you are just plain daft if you had read what i have said in the past I never said Carrick was world class I said he was United most important player in the same way Alonso was to us, not the best player but the nmost important because the way United are set up. The other thing i said was that when Carrick finishes playing he will of had a better career than Gerrard because he has played for a team that has won more which is a fact. So please if your going to bring up stuff i have said please get it right and stop talking like the 15 year old kid you obviously are.