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just seen the penalty i dont know why there was any debate it was a cast iron pen , listen people lets get it right all this crying and moaning about manchester united its our fault collectively everyone involved with the club from 1990 to now we have all sat there thinking it wouldnt happen well it has and unless the liverpool way changes with the times it could be not 19 it could be 21 or 22 before we know it , big big job on at LFC and to say it just going to happen because dalglish is the manager is just nonsense it will need a lot of luck and loads and loads of hard work by all involved with the club and being like Man UTD ruthless instead of sentiment clouding judgment .

6 months ago, I'd have agreed with you wholeheartedly 100%.
Now, I'm not quite so sure.
I really am beginning to think the KD factor is having a great influence on the club, players and supporters.

yes it is now but it is still a honeymoon period and nothing was expected from this team so no real pressure on it , the test will be next season and the way people are talking non of the other teams are going to improve its only liverpool well this is my point loads of hard work and luck needed for LFC because yes the other teams will buy and some will buy big .

Players have to have the fire in there belly to play well,kenny puts that there, his personality is infectious, hes told the players they need to be as one, together and work hard for each other that way the wins will come,anyone can see the players believe what kenny tells them and that they are simply now playing for him, therefore creating competition for places= players playing better,Kenny is a huge factor in what we have achieved this season,its no coincidence we picked up when kenny came in! as opposed to slow slow dreary dreary slow hodgson,no one could muster enthusiasm with roy.

I don't think it is man utd that will be the problem, from now on man city will be the team to watch. Their squad has now been together for 12 months and if they bring in like us 3/4 quality signings which they will as now in the champions league they will be very tough to beat.

Our problem is consistancy against the lower teams in the table, if we can go at them (i.e fulham) and kill the game off by the end of the first half will we be up their challenging. We show to much respect and we are too lazy against the lower teams.

dalglish has been and done really well , but i am not here to defend Roy because in the end the buck stop at the manager who ever it is , but without a doubt the toxic influence of fernando torres was causing big problems at the club bring the club down and him leaving was a massive factor in the changes , i believe if he had stayed liverpool would not be looking for 5th more like 8th .

I sense a mellowing of the spirit here. In the days when it was the other way around we never gave them an inch. All this pragmatic and sensible comments on our 5th rate status and ambivalence to Manchester’s success is doing my head in. Yes you are right but..... I say this it was never a pen, NEVER in a million years and they were a disgrace going over to the ref that like. Liverpool players would have said “excuse me Ref I may be wrong and if so I apologise but I believe an infringement may have occurred in the penalty area and they would have then walked away. And as far as I am concerned it’s still 18 all because they cheated yesterday. Stop this logic and pragmatism stuff no good will come of it. And another thing if we get 5th today it will be a disaster we should have been first. Come August First is the target and Kenny seeped as he is our history won’t take anything less.