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Have you seen any of his goals on youtube? Or even his goal against Sunderland?/

Absolutely

But it's been that way for some time

Under Houllier we had 3 England strikers - Owen, Fowler and Heskey

Fowler had lost his mojo somwhat by the time Houllier took sole charge, and we only really got one good season out of Heskey, but along with Owen they were still good enough to at least try and attack a team but away from home we just didn't do that often enough

The same was true under Rafa - and again that team was IMO at its best over the Feb-May of 2009 - with Gerrard behind Torres and Mascherano/Alonso controlling things in the centre of the park. And again we managed to beat Scum at OT 4-1 and the mighty Real Madrid 5-0 over two legs (which as two results go have to be amongst Rafa's greatest victories)

But in my honest opinion we've looked even better over the last 3-4 games.

Suarez has admitedly made a big difference but it's not because we're a better team on paper than Rafa's class on 2008-09 - we're not - we're just playing better attacking-based football, playing to out strengths, gretting at the opposition early and as we did last night, unnerving defenders into making mistakes (which Suarez in particular has been superb at)

Have you not seen him tap the ball to the keeper from the edge of the 18 yard area more than once in every game? The goal against Sunderland was class, but not because it was a powerful shot; the keeper admitted he never expected him to try beat him at the near post from such an angle.

Look, I'm not saying he's rubbish - just that for all the space he gets himself into his final product (for Liverpool) has lacked something most of the time. As I said, maybe he's trying too hard or trying to be too clever instead of just knocking into the back of the net and thinking about his options later.

Gerrard hasnt always got the greatest shot on. How many other players do you see blast it into row z? get of the lads back. Suarez can keep doing what he's doing. The boy is class just look how he took his goal lastnight. I cant beleieve your even saying this about him. Have supporters of this club recently turned into the biggest bunch of moaning bast@rds in the premier league?

Was I moaning? I thought I was in the process of being surprised. Go figure.

No it was moaning.

His scoring record at Ajax suggests he's very clinical

Really? Well, I wasn't trying to, if that helps?

Suarez is an amazing player, and everyone hoofs it into the stands or fails to make the keeper work from time to time; that's football. It's just that he's so good at beating the back 4 and getting into position to have a crack (and given his clinical record with Ajax) that I'm really surprised when his shot is wild or easily gathered. It's not that I don't think he has the ability, and I'm not upset he hasn't scored twice as many goals because he makes it so much easier for everyone else to score. Besides, 4 goals + 7 or 8 assists in 11 games is a fantastic return for a player in his first season in the EPL. I'm not moaning, I'm not "on his back"; I simply feel that he exudes such class he deserves a better return, but something's not quite clicking for him.

I do believe he's trying to hard like you said in one of your earlier posts. Maybe once he's had a while to settle and learn the langauge well see a different Suarez.

What he does offer us differently to Torres is that he's much more of a team player and isnt to selfish to bring other players in.

I was only joking about the moaning bit.

Haha - once he learns the language those linesmen will need earplugs. He certainly has a go at them when they rule against him, and I'm sure they understand not a word right now.

Torres is a totally different striker. Lethal, but needs space. Suarez creates space, but maybe left his shooting boots in Holland. Once he has a chance to go fetch them he will set the league on fire even more. The summer break is going to be the longest two months EVER.