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Definately was the best side on paper, and also came the closest to winning it.


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Since winning the title, probably yes

We were quite good when we came runners-up under Houllier in the 2001-02 season, but as with Rafa’s team that came runner’s up a couple of years back, we unravelled pretty drastically thereafter

Man-for-man, the team Rafa had in 2008-2009 has been the strongest modern day Liverpool team I’d say,

What gives me cause for hope this time – and there have been plenty of false dawns before – is we’ve reverted to playing the time of football that has delivered for us before – attacking-based

For the last 13 years all our coaches have been defensive-minded known for grinding out results as opposed to blowing opponents away as we are at the minute. There were times – the aforementioned seasons – when we took the straightjacket off and went for it – and they were usually our best performances – but under Houllier, Benitez and Hodgson you nearly always thought the team were playing within themselves

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Benitez's class of 08/09 were amazing at winning games in which they went behind, and the sheer number of goals they scored hardly made them appear a defensive team. Kenny's class of (10/)11 is all about getting on the scoreboard first and winning the game before the opposition have much of a sniff of goal. Perhaps we have to play that way because of our injuries and lack of a left back, but right now we're an effective unit even if we're running on empty. With the right reinforcements over the next two seasons this team may eclipse Rafa's, which was most certainly the best since the EPL began. And all because of one word: belief.

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Benitez's class of 08/09 were amazing at winning games in which they went behind, and the sheer number of goals they scored hardly made them appear a defensive team. Kenny's class of (10/)11 is all about getting on the scoreboard first and winning the game before the opposition have much of a sniff of goal. Perhaps we have to play that way because of our injuries and lack of a left back, but right now we're an effective unit even if we're running on empty. With the right reinforcements over the next two seasons this team may eclipse Rafa's, which was most certainly the best since the EPL began. And all because of one word: belief.


isnt that what every team is trying to do? every team wants to score the first goal and be on the front foot.

i think kenny has done 2 things;

1. took all the pressure off the players.

2. got them working hard as a team off the ball, witch imo is the most important thing for a team to be doing

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isnt that what every team is trying to do? every team wants to score the first goal and be on the front foot.


lol - okay that's what I wrote, and yes, it wasn't exactly what I meant; no team plans to concede first and then try to win from there. I meant "score early", and again, yes, every team wants that but the tempo we play at from the start, both on and off the ball is very much more "attacking" than the "defensive" style we've adapted to over the last few years. Which is supposedly what I was getting at.

See? This writing less thing doesn't work for me.

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isnt that what every team is trying to do? every team wants to score the first goal and be on the front foot.


lol - okay that's what I wrote, and yes, it wasn't exactly what I meant; no team plans to concede first and then try to win from there. I meant "score early", and again, yes, every team wants that but the tempo we play at from the start, both on and off the ball is very much more "attacking" than the "defensive" style we've adapted to over the last few years. Which is supposedly what I was getting at.

See? This writing less thing doesn't work for me.


i knew what you meant thundyr, we have been starting very fast in games of late and if thats kenny's plan; we start every game fast no matter where or who we're playing them im all for that. hated our away form over the past couple of years because trying to just get through the game instead of taking the game to our opponents. 'best form of defence is attack'

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"Best form of defense is no be there" smile (Not sure which movie that's from, maybe the original Karate Kid)

There isn't a side in this league we should be afraid of, and we have the forwards to put them to the sword, so why not assault them, especially away from home? Many of the goals we've scored in the past few games have come from opposition errors - we create so much pressure that the opportunities just present themselves to us - and I must say we've been clinical in front of goal (except for Suarez, strangely enough - trying too hard, maybe?).

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"Best form of defense is no be there" smile (Not sure which movie that's from, maybe the original Karate Kid)

There isn't a side in this league we should be afraid of, and we have the forwards to put them to the sword, so why not assault them, especially away from home? Many of the goals we've scored in the past few games have come from opposition errors - we create so much pressure that the opportunities just present themselves to us - and I must say we've been clinical in front of goal (except for Suarez, strangely enough - trying too hard, maybe?).


never heard that one thundyr.

your right there isn't a team we should fear home or away. and the pressure we are applying is my favourite thing about us atm we're working so hard as a team. and tbh i don't think suarez is the most natural finisher now i know lot of you are about to throw his goal scoring record at ajax in my face but not every striker with a good goals to game radio is a natural finisher

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Suarez just doesn't seem to have a powerful shot on him. Maybe he's just mistiming it right now or something, but he gets into really good positions and then ends up just not making the keeper work hard enough. Perhaps he's more concerned with placing it in the corner, and just isn't hitting his target? Dunno what it is, but every time he gets into the 18 yard box (and he gets there with the ball under control a phenomenal amount) I'm always hoping someone else is in space so that a simple layoff leads to a goal rather than having him hoof it into the stands or dink it into the keeper's arms. I mean, I want him to score, but I hate watching him whiff.

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sell the bas tard.


Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.

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