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Some good points on this thread. I also don't think you can ignore off field. Before and at the start of the premier league Man Utd were on a different planet to LFC merchandising and the marketing of the club. Plus they developed their ground to a 76,000 all seater with scope to go to 90,000. Marketing we were too little too late and our ground (much as I love it) is small and derelict (main stand). Utd’s turnover is much higher than ours which has reflected in the transfer budget. You still of course have to spend well which Ferguson (with the odd mistake) largely has done so. We await our new owner’s plans but I have a bad feeling it will be a second best option but let’s not start that one off.


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Utd have a winning mentality that comes from good ole sour face. They also have a fantastic stadium and massive although at times phoney fanbase.

They also had periods of signing top class players, rooney, rio, berba etc who at that time where up there with some of the best in europe and on there day still are.

I do however think as crazy as it sounds that there is going to be a new team taking over there mantle over the next 5 years, wether that is us remains to be seen. They have again had a great season league standing and cup run wise however on another season arsenal chelsea or even city could and should have won the title this year.

If they win the league and champions league I think Fergie will leave in the summer. I think he knows deep down there on the verge of requiring another major re building of the side and he will want to leave at the very very top

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Originally Posted By: dgkt
Lots of luck as well. When they do play badly, loses or draw. The rest of the teams chasing them always seem to cock up as well.


Some call that 'luck', others 'skill' or 'bottle'. Champions tend to have more of it.

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Every team needs an element of luck to win things and we have had more than our fair share over the years lads dont forget that.

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We missed the boat years ago when management ETC, didnt market the club well enough and get real investment,as for the team its consistancy we need, play your heart out each week and grind out wins when you have a bad day at the office.having said that we can only improve all departments and i believe we will,starting now!

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Ferguson.


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Originally Posted By: emp
not only that. they have better footballers than we do also. sure we can mix it up with them but over a season their flair wins more points than our hard work. proved time and time again


I couldn't disagree more. It's all about the manager which is why we're doing so much better in this half of the season than we were in the first half with more or less the same players.
Based on individual talent, Utd should be 6th or 7th in the league.

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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Ferguson.
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I agree with emp here, they do have better footballers overall, more depth as well.
Based on current fit & important players:
VDS : Reina = draw
Vidic, Ferdinand : Carragher, Skrtl = United
Valencia, Giggs, Scholes, Nani, Carrick, Park : Gerrard, Spearing, Lucas, Meireles, Maxi = United
Rooney, Berbatov, Chicharito, Owen : Suarez, Carroll, Kuyt, Ngog = United.

They have the better team for sure and more depth on their bench, also they can play decent football sometimes as they showed against schalke so they aren't terrible all the time. THey are our enemies, we hate them but they have been dominant because they are superior in both squads and manager.


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i think it all comes down to bad management from the top.

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