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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
I think many have sour memories of Torres from this season and parts of last season where he sulked around the pitch. But Murph, iHouse is correct, Torres at his best for us was pretty amazing. And Suarez is only in the early days.

81 goals in 142 games for Torres is a superb scoring record for anyone. Suarez has 2 goals in 5 games, hence a very long way to go to catch up with Torres. But I'm liking what I see so far. And well done Luis, thought it might take longer to settle, but seems some people just get on with it.
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great to see a player with such skill work so hard for the team. he's been excellent so far and the scary thing about it is claims he isn't even fully match fit yet. if we continue to sign quality fairly young players of his stature and quality then surely we can match any premiership side in the next couple of seasons. future looks bright so far



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Torres was a top player for us and was well on his way to becoming a legend but the way he went about his transfer ruined any chance of that but his goal return was immense. Suarez has made it easy to forget fernando though and believe he will be a better player for us than Torres was he is a very special player and has everything him and Carroll are the best front 2 in the epl by a long way and have plenty of time on there side and give us a good forward line to build around as they are the future of liverpool fc and a very bright one at that it's looking good and if we can bring in 4-5 more players of suarez's class in the summer the epl could be ours at last.

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the only flaw i've seen in his game so far is his readiness to argue aggressively with match officials. apart from that he has been nothing short of world class in his handful of appearances. maybe thats where his determination and fighting spirit comes from. every team needs players that fired up for games though, rather than players that sulk and spit their dummy out if things aren't going there way.



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Torres was simply terrifying on his day when he decides he wants to play. Suarez has some way to go but he has got his head screwed on right with a wonderful attitude and willingness to work. (i loved the way he kissed the ball before the freekick)

Carroll needs a couple of games to get up to speed. Impressed with the way he took the stick from the Sunderland fans but just go on with it. He has it in his game to be absolutely dominating. If we can get crosses in the right areas, he is going to score a hatful. John Mensah, Anton Ferdinand are no slouches in the air but he made them look amateurish.

now all we need are wingers who can cross and pass and move

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Originally Posted By: Wicksy84
Torres was a top player for us and was well on his way to becoming a legend


QFT. Torres was one of the last 4 when it came to selecting LFC Hall of Fame players for the 2000-2009 period, despite only playing 3 of those 10 seasons, and I have to think he got more votes than Sami simply because he broke every club scoring record he qualified for. But it's just as well he didn't get more votes than Carra, eh?

You have to stop thinking that his ambition made him a bad player - if anything it made him the fantastic player he was for us, and will be for Chelsea if they can work out how to incorporate him into their system.

Suarez is not a "better" player than Torres, nor is he worse. He is simply different. He fits the forward playmaker role that Torres failed at, and it's why he's had an immediate impact.

He's a very tricky runner and excels at dribbling, so pass-and-move is perfect for him as it highlights all his strengths. If only we could actually pass the ball a bit more - we only ever seem to do it with any facility when we're running the clock down in a won game (eg the 3rd goal vs Wolves). We're miles off the way Chelsea pass the ball and support each other in midfield, and that really bothers me because I would have thought Kenny would have instilled this system by now, particularly with the 5-a-side games. What is it we aren't learning?

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What I love about Suarez is he gets the ball from midfield and runs towards the defence which is something we have not seen in a while. He is a similar play to Tevez which I admire because every game and every second of that game, they are working their socks off to win for the team. No matter how good he is, he discards that and wins it for the team. Brilliant player and I really really hope he can wins us trophies because he seems like a player that deserves it.


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Originally Posted By: Wicksy84
Torres was a top player for us and was well on his way to becoming a legend but the way he went about his transfer ruined any chance of that but his goal return was immense. Suarez has made it easy to forget fernando though and believe he will be a better player for us than Torres was he is a very special player and has everything him and Carroll are the best front 2 in the epl by a long way and have plenty of time on there side and give us a good forward line to build around as they are the future of liverpool fc and a very bright one at that it's looking good and if we can bring in 4-5 more players of suarez's class in the summer the epl could be ours at last.


that's a bit of statement we don't even know if they will hit it off as partners yet, they are both very good players but that doesn't make them a very good partnership, people just need to chill out specially with all the suarez is better than torres nonsense. the only reason I'd have suarez over torres is because torres doesn't want to play for us and suarez does if i was a fan of another team I'd have torres everyday, torres has proven he is the best striker in the world at the top level suarez has a long way to go before we say that

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The thread was meant to take the emphasis off Torres and discuss the emergence of a potential world beater in Suarez,unfortunately the opposite seems to have happened.


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What people are missing is that right now Suarez is ten times the player Torres is and will only get better Torres is finished his injures have caught up with him and I don't see him ever being the player he was again especially at the chav's we sold him at perfectly the right time the same as rat boy but we got 50 mill for Torres which is nice to see us screw someone over for a change luis and Carroll are the future and the ones we need to support not f**knando torres just let him go he's s**t.

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