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He's had 3 different managers and is still nowhere near the first team must say something.

The others obviously cant see talent like us Ceb?! grin


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That was as bad possibly worse as anything this season against a team that hasnt played for over 2 months not a shot on target , dire .

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The most boring game I have ever seen in my life.


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Originally Posted By: ceb
wow...thought it was just me.....get ready for the backlash murph


Your not the only one ceb. I believe like murph has mentioned, he has been under 3 different managers and if he as as good as people seem to rate him than why hasn't he played regularly? I think alot of the fans are hyping up our youth too much which is sad to see. Time to face the reality that they are not as good when playing in a competitive game. Playing and impressinng in a reserve match does not mean they are superstars. Kelly the only one that showing he will be a star in the future. I don't see it in any other youngster we have and the fans better start observing those guys properly otherwise they are going to be really disapointed when the lads come out for their debuts.


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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
I believe like murph has mentioned, he has been under 3 different managers and if he as as good as people seem to rate him than why hasn't he played regularly? I think alot of the fans are hyping up our youth too much which is sad to see. Time to face the reality that they are not as good when playing in a competitive game.


This is true. I'm becoming rather concerned for Pacheco, myself. He seems to only get onto the bench in games where we can't afford to throw him into the deep end lest we get the wrong result. And yet, at the level we expect to be playing at, "easy" games are as rare as we're discovering - our "easiest" game in Europa since the start of the group phase was the first home game, the rest were tight except for half an hour of brilliance from Steven Gerrard. Yet Pacheco was not getting picked for these games, and the odd time he was on the pitch he muddled around rather than dominated. If the coach can't trust you to go out there and help win a tight game, how much faith does he actually have in you? Rafa tipped Pacheco to be ready to break into the first team this season, but I think it's fair to say that this probably is not going to be the season he breaks through. Compare with how Kelly has performed when given the opportunity this season. If Pacheco does not make it in the next 12 months, I don't think he ever will, and I'm starting to think the first 6 of those 12 months are already written off. He stands to lose out on his chance to play as an AMC in our system with Meireles as first choice and any of Shelvey, Maxi, and even Aurelio seen to be better as backup. Unless he can make himself useful as a replacement for Suarez, I can't seem him in the first side earlier than Sterling (who although much younger has far less competition for his place); and if that is true he may be sold sooner.

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Pacheco needs a loan move for a season. He has ability but reserve football is miles away from first team footy. wiltshire went to Bolton at the end of last season and thrived. Danny needs the same to get regular games in a competative enviroment, be it championship or league 1. Huddersfield took Kelly and he came back fighting for a bench place. Ayala now at Derb also did well at Hull.

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the problem for pacheco has been his size everyone assumes he'll get thrown around by PL defenders and this season he may as well have gone and played rugby cause hodgson had some master plan to turn him into a winger (what a c*nt) play him and suarez together and they're movement would cause a lot of problems for most defences, i like pacheco think he is very talented don't think he is the next iniesta or anything but i would much rather see him in the team than the likes aurelio and maxi and ngog who have proved themselves to be useless piles of sh!t

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
The most boring game I have ever seen in my life.
it wasnt pretty was it. worst game to watch since kenny took charge. ngog was bad but atleast he was involved in the game( was sh!t but still there). last night we played with 10 men because maxi decided not to turn up. not for the 1st time.i would liked to have seen any player instead of him, very surprised and disappointed kenny didnt take him off.

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Originally Posted By: cp1972
Pacheco needs a loan move for a season. He has ability but reserve football is miles away from first team footy. wiltshire went to Bolton at the end of last season and thrived. Danny needs the same to get regular games in a competative enviroment, be it championship or league 1. Huddersfield took Kelly and he came back fighting for a bench place. Ayala now at Derb also did well at Hull.



great shout mate...pacheco needs the games to prove his self...he wont and doesnt deserve them here yet...hope the lad does turn out to be a great player but i just cant see it yet..


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