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The top ten richest clubs in the world we are still in it (just) at 8th place. Although Mr Henry note the gap between us an Arsenal where 15 years ago we were ahead of them and on a par with Man U 20 years ago! On a positive note it’s gratifying to note despite all the disappointments on and off the field over last 15 years we are still up there as a big club. But we are at the crossroads and let’s hope our new owners have the vision and BIG commitment (off field infrastructure investment) to give us platform to move up in the upper levels of that list where we should be for our fan base. Revenues need to increase dramatically extracting more and more from existing base is NOT the way forward. In fact that will drive us backwards. Post is a friendly warning shot to Mr H.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12376035

im in work.

I can see you minimising when your boss walks past !!

Ditto

So finishing 7th last season, failing to qualify for the CL knockout stage (and later the CL entirely), fans boycotting purchases that would just feed H&G prior to the sale of the club are all the fault of our present owners?

It's like every post I make is a plea for perspective. Why is that?

I never said the recent past was the fault of the owners I have no idea I you got that out of my post. What I am saying is they have a big job to do starting from now. I am also wary of the screwing the fans option.

That's where I got that impression from: your last sentence indicates that screwing the fans over is what you expect him to do, despite the fact that he has not done that with his other sports enterprises. Our slip from 15 years ago is understandable given that we've never won the EPL, and I know you got your figures from the Koptalk news page which shows that our revenue slipped by just more than a quarter of a million pounds. Frankly I expected our revenue to drop significantly more given our performances on and off the pitch last season; I think you're just trying to make something out of nothing. Mr Henry wouldn't be half the businessman he is if he didn't fully appreciate the club's financial position and potential, as well as the link between on-field performance and income.

Thundry – Completely right Mr Henry is a great businessman, that’s the concern AND the opportunity. He saw his chance with the pickle Gillet and Hicks were in with the refinancing deadline and he got the club probably £100m / £150m so below what it was worth. No problem with that but he needs to recognise he has bought a house on the cheap, but a house in need of serious renovation. The only things we know for sure is he brought success to Redsox tarted up Fenway park (Fenway still only holds 36,000) and wacked up the ticket prices. He has hinted in last interview it’s likely we will be staying at Anfield. I see you live in Shanghai how would you feel if you yourself were paying £50 now heading to £75 for many of the fans in England, Ireland and Europe that’s a reality. It’s all conjecture I agree but it’s not pie in the sky either and I accept we don’t know anything concrete now but no use moaning about it when it’s too late.

And another thing.....

Don't you want this club to progress ?

Rafarendum yes encouraging and it shows what a large fan base we have. Which makes your lack of ambition surprising. I am sure you will call it pragmatism but that never created anything great. If Shankly had been a pragmatist would we have dominated Europe in the 1970's / 80's I think not. Think half way house and thats where you end up.