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omg .. can't be ..!! haw it come to that limit  ..! good bye title  . sleep in peace great shankly ..:(
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It won't be happy days for him when they appoint some clown of a manager because no descent manager in his right mind would take the job as it is. Benitez leaving will not lead to more success whatever Emp thinks.
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Empe is having his morning tea, he will be on later calling for Zola to take over at anfield. lol lol Zola. lol lol.
I said it yesterday, i think the manager is going to walk, the only problem i think, is, if Rafa walks he looses compensation, if RAFA is sacked he gets a good sum of pounds.
I think there is truth to the statement, but i dont think the americans are that foolish to let the manager go after two or three games into a new season. Somebody is going to Force the americans hands with dough. If the yanks only have 1,5million to give RAFA, then if we add another 3,5 million he could buy a defender. IS 3,5 million that much difference for a millionaire?
Im afraid the yanks are here to stay for a while, we wont get rid of them any time soon. If Rafa goes, we will make huge money from sales of players:Torrese, Reina, Masherano. Yes.
I dont think he will walk this season, but i think he will endure a tough time until somethig changes.
under GED we came 2nd, and the following season we were poor, now i suspect we heading the same route as the times under GED, then eventually Rafa will be out.
The sea, will be the sea, whatever the drops philosophy!
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hhaha, there you are, bright and sonny morning, the team are getting ready for stoke, and here you start throwing your cow dung all over the threads!
haha, Rafa spoke to kenny to bring Kenny back and take charge of teh academy. The owners didnt. The owners know absolutely nothing about football, they americans remember, they play grid iron.
LETS COMPARE RAFA FAILURES VS RAFA SUCCESS signingd:
TYPE OUT WHO ARE HIS FAILURES.
The sea, will be the sea, whatever the drops philosophy!
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not just signings i will go through the good and bad of rafa if you want to pick holes in it.
the good- he has his teams extremely fit and motivated at all times. he obviously works very hard and the players appreciate the attention to detail. he sets his team up very well in european ties. he has signed reina,torres,skrtel,alonso,johnson all world class players,maybe skrtel is not there yet but has potential as does insua.
the bad. he sets up his teams not to lose and does not care if we give the ball away. he failed miserably to act on last seasons success which was due to a lot of luck ,alonso and the handbreak going down after we were 12points behind or so. he kicked out alonso. and most of his signings have been crap as was his decision to let go murphy,crouch and warnock. signings crap.babel,keane,morientees,dossenna,lucas,kuyt,momo,voronin pennant, gonzalez,zenden,bellamy,josemi,nunez
now let me guess the crap signings were either parry singings ,sold on for a profit or cheap. in which case we should give rafa a new job as chief accountant You say it was a mistake to let Crouch go but in the same breath moan about the lack of a passing game we have at the moment. I for one believe we played more 'route one' football when Crouch was in the team than when he wasn't. Some of your moanings contradict each other.
The following is based on actual events. Only the names, locations and events have been changed.
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Emp Rafa loves his players to have posession of the ball and make the opponent work hard to get it off of us. He is the man to bring us success
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If he sets up his team to loose then why:
Did we hit Man U for 4 last season? Why did we demolish Madrid? Why did we break Chelsea's home record? Why did we put on such a great show at the bridge in Europe last year? Why did we do the double over chelsea, man United?
He does not care that we give the ball away:
He said after spurs game we gave the ball away too easily, how do you prove he does not care?
He kicked out Alonso?
Alonso wanted to go to madid, you cant stop him, i agree the year before he wanted buy Barry, but Alonso wanted to go.
His signings:
Babel was great, he hasnt found his form, so now you blame Rafa? Babel had a great season in his first season, he played well against United, last season at anfield. Even scored the winner.
Murphy walked on his own, he wasnt kicked out, warnock was a squad player, like Insua. Crouch wanted play every game, Rafa said you cant! he is the boss afterall, he says who plays and when they play!
Keane was PARRY'S buy not Rafa, that led to parry being sacked, Morientes was tough luck, it just didnt work out.
Dossena - was the best defender in Srie A the season before, i would have bought him based on that reputation too, Dossena says he found it difficult to train less in england, he needs to train more to produce his form he shwed in italy.
Lucas: Lucas was awarded the ballo d or in brazil, a title won by Romario, facao and other great brazilian players, he was the captain of the brazil under 21 team. He is regarded as a great talent in brazil, he had all the reputation a player young player could dream of, so RAFA bought him, if he doesnt fit the premiership you cannot fault the boss.
Kuyt is not a crap player, he is a good player that does a job in the team. Momo was great, similar to mashc but coudnt pass well, and lost the ball too often.
Voronin is crap!! Pennat can do a job, he is not crap, gonzalez also rated as best player in Chilie, unlucky it didnt work out. Zendedn was a free transfer, not loss there.
Joseni was a failure, but rafa bought him in our first season.
Nunez came for free as part of the deal to sell owen, he was poor, but we sold him and made a profit.
For every failure or crap player Rafa has bought, other managers have done the same thing :
Bellion, Kleberson, Forlan, Samaras, Baptista, Lauren Blanc, Bendtner, Berbatov etc
Every coach makes crap signings, and good signings.
Good signings : Pacheco, Torres, Riera, Pepe, Masherano, Alonso, Skretl, Agger, Jhonson etc.
The sea, will be the sea, whatever the drops philosophy!
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You see your ability to understand is impaired by a deep seated bias in your subconcious.
I said above Vornin was crap, i said Nunez was poor, and i said every manager makes crap buys, if every player worked out, then every team will do the treble every year.
Compare, this team to the days or Bjornebye, Harkness, Tanner, MARSH, kuvarme. i mean if you cant see a improvement in this team, then i really dont know what you see.
Do you honestly think a new manager is not going to make mistakes?
Remeber Luis Garcia? crap player? but he scored plenty important goals.
You got to take into consideration that he can only shop for a player within a certain price range, and that is that.
The sea, will be the sea, whatever the drops philosophy!
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you're talking rubbish again Emp.
has Liverpool improved every year since 2004? year on year out? If your answer is yes then why are you so bitter?
I have second guessed a lot on this forum lately - sadly my guess for signing Villa has not come true but yesterday I felt that Rafa may be pushed too far by the pathetic news of £1,5m in transfer funds and I just hope that this guess proves to be as poor as my Villa one.
Emp if Rafa leaves Liverpool mate it will be very serious indeed!!! You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
I just hope I don't ever have to say "I told you so you soppy sod!"
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