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Not about optimism for me or negativity just the cold light of day after another ludicrous transfer window comes and goes.

Suarez in (done deal regardless) Torres out for the right money and then like headless chickens panic buy money for Carroll.

What happened to spending wisely?

Where have we strengthened the team prior to yesterday's team sheet?

No Adam and (Spurs just missed out) I bet now it will be an auction come the summer. No young or anyone where we actually have weaknesses that need sorting.

Why is blowing that sort of money from selling Torres looked upon as some great deed?

How is the side now going to get from 7th to 3rd or 4th by the end of the season?

So, what was the point?

Don't think I'll ever criticize Raffa's spending ever again.

Sorry guys, just not impressed with this at all.

we are stronger as the prima-donna is gone, he's probably stropping at the chavs already as the tampons in the gents are the wrong colour.

I am fed up biting my nails, for well over a year, regardless of the score or game, thinking "don't get injured, don't get injured....."

He has been tried with crouch, keane, heskey, babel, kuyt.............and has not been able to work as a pair with anyone. (with spain he can operate with villa as really iniesta and villa drop off and leave judas on his own!) Chelsea will soon discover they have problems, ala gerrard lampard england etc.

We have landed suarez and carroll, very young hungry exciting partnership who lets face it, individually will only get better for a nett spend of £1m - inc the babel fee!

The speed at which the carroll deal was pulled together was very impressive, regardless of the fee.

We are undoubtably a better team tonight. So FFS cheer up, judas didn't wanna play for us anymore.

Carroll has been just as good as torres this season. And we now have the extra fire power of suarez

At the end of the day Suarez has a better goalscoring record than Torres in recent times all be it over in Holland. But facts are facts, he scores goals.

Carroll scores goals to.

Win win.

PLUS, we got £50 million for a [oops] who didnt want to player for us, lied to us and nearly left us in need of a striker until the summer. He didnt care about the club or us in the end and its probably the best thing as a club and a team we could have done. If rumours are to believed the players didnt atchually like him on the training ground. So how are we worse of?

I for one am sooooo glad Kenny was there to show him the door. It means more to mean than say if Hodgson showed him out. Kenny was there luckily so WE KNOW it was done for the best.

Watch us fly now.

YNWA

at the end of the day we have signed of the biggest prospects in football that have bright futures at this club. carroll may not be as gifted as torres but he scores goals and is a nightmare for any defence. suarez is a top quality forward and a finisher who can create.

if we continue to spend in this way we will build a quality team for the future. this is just the beginning.

And Torres is a plastic teat (yes-teat)

Don't doubt Suarez appears a good buy. But he was bid for prior to yesterday's merry go round.

I have faith in Kenny and he must have seen something in the guy big time, it's just the fee is incredible.

I hope Carroll becomes the greatest forward the club has ever had, but it seems we are now paying a reported 35 million for potential?

Hes been as good as anyone this season

i hear you mate, its hard to take but it will sink in soon.

but remember...

kenny daglish was 'potential' when we signed him from glasgow celtic for £440k

"The end is the beginning is the end." (Smashing Pumpkins)

I know that perspective is hard to come by when it comes to Liverpool supporters these days, but "better off" is always a relative term. We've lost the best lone striker in the world, with a squad largely set up to play formations that require a lone striker. It doesn't matter whose fault that is, but that is the sad reality; we stand weaker as a team today.

Now before you rabid communists stick the knife in yet again (don't try deny it; everything you have done and said since Friday regarding Torres is textbook communism), let me just say that Torres was always going to leave; FSG's plan of gradually building would never fit with his need to win something now. Torres didn't abandon us any less than he abandoned his childhood dream of obtaining honour and glory simultaneously. He's grown up now; he realizes you can't realistically have both in a foreign country. He will forget us now; the LFC fans' open-minded reception of his transfer request will certainly make that easy. He is almost certainly thinking how two-faced we are to have propped him up so high only to fall on him like a pack of dogs when he dared to suggest we show some ambition now.

But how will the team stand tomorrow? We still own no wingers or quality left back, positions we should have been addressing with some urgency since the summer quite frankly, but water under the bridge and all that. There are signs that Suarez and Carroll could be a good partnership given their abilities, and I will enjoy watching us taking corners for once. But the question is whether they will be able to play together, whether these two renegades can actually work within the LFC collective. "A biter and a fighter" I dubbed them yesterday (there's a song there, I know it, and hopefully someone can make something out of it, just hopefully something with a bit more class than "We f*cking hate Leeds, Leeds, Leeds. Leeds, Leeds, Leeds."). I'm also sure Kenny is the man with the right plan; I can't believe he'd sign off on spending 35m for a guy who was in the Championship 6 months ago if he didn't see something he could make majestic.

Have we made the right steps? Probably. Torres was no longer a fit with the club, both in purpose and spirit. He will leave a large hole, but at the same time the doubts about his ability to work with his team mates, his ability to bring his game face to each match, and his ability to remain fit are no longer concerns of ours. Perhaps his leaving is the final, necessary cast-off from the H&G era; perhaps only now can we truly move forward again.

With the new "spend as you earn" rules for clubs coming into effect in the summer, a team finally unbound from the last few seasons of doubt and in-fighting, owners who showed they will heavily overpay if they must, and the mere presence of the King, I think we're in a better place than many of our rivals, even if we don't reach our target EPL position this season due to too many new faces and positional weaknesses. I thought I would be upset about having to change my avatar, but I don't feel that way. And that's good.