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Even if he didn't want out he won't be welcomed by a large section of the fans at future games. And that's sad. Remember how many people on this forum said "I hope we lose just so that we can get rid of Hodgson"? What if Torres said, "Look, you promised we would sign people and you haven't shown much commitment towards that promise. This club really needs investment if we're to get anywhere, if I'm to really feel like I'm getting the support I need. Do I have to put in a signed transfer request before I see some action?"

What if they replied, "Yes"?

He might be doing this for himself, to soothe the thought that says "You're better than these guys; you could be winning things with Barcelona" (not that they have been serious about buying him, ever). But it is in the interest of the club that we actually start to show some ambition; or would you prefer we continued in the same vein as we have since 1991?

So back off, you haters; he's not the only person in the world who wanted his club to improve. I want the same thing, every single f*cking day, and so do you. Look at Rooney this season, and Fabregas every Summer. They still put on the shirt and go out there trying to win the game. Torres will do the same, especially because our manager encourages the right kind of football.

Who knows? Maybe Torres gets his groove back and never mentions leaving the club ever again. What will you knee-jerkers think then? Still a traitor? You don't know what happened, but you're not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Fine judge of character the lot of you. I'll agree that his timing could have been better, but, again, you don't know what's been happening behind the scenes since Jan 1, never mind since July or prior to the Birmingham game last season. You see little bits of light and think you know the whole picture. None of us do, but I'm not the one willing to hang him first and ask questions later.

But still, Chelsea? Maybe it will finally dawn on all you 'give him a chance' when he scores against us in a blue shirt the impact of his actions. He put in a transfer request, so he is more than willing to do it. That said, I am curious why Real Madrid have not come on in to buy out his contract. 50m + Benzema would do nicely. Benzema is not in favour and nando has some good mates in Real.

All we know is that it was reported that Torres submitted his transfer request after Chelsea's bid, and his agent has gone on record in the summer saying that he would stay in the premiere league but possibly with another club, and it was after that Chelsea made their summer bid. I'm all for giving him the benefit of the doubt, but Torres hasn't been celebrating with the same passion he once did. Guess we'll know for sure in the next 48 hours.

Torres won't join Real because of his affiliation with Athletico and the rivalry runs far deeper than chelsea-liverpool.

If he wants to go, let him go. Thundyr has already explained in simple english numerous times and I think he has the right to do it as we have not lived up to his ambitions in the last couple of years. don't blame him, blame the management.

career wise, he doesn't want to be stuck in a rut. he couldn't win the La Liga with A.madrid, and he can't see himself winning the premiership with LFC. If you are ambitious, you got to move. simple as....

Raul and Figo both left Ath. Madrid and Barcelona respectively, to join Real Madrid. A player leaving Barcelona for Madrid is considered high treason and one of the most unlikely scenarios in Spanish football, in particular Figo's case since he was considered one of Barca's own. So Torres going to Madrid isn't as unlikely as people would make out, but the nature of Torres may see him loyal to Ath. Madrid, he also said he had unfinished business there. People are hurt, and feel betrayed, but at the end of the day its the hypocrisy, lack of on-pitch effort and timing that is the big deal here. I have no malicious intentions for Torres if he leaves, he did come to Liverpool to win trophies, but have lost respect for him due to the support given to him in the last 18 months and the manner in which he handled this. What kind of player "Demands" support of the fans anyway? I will however reserve my final judgement until the dust settles and everything becomes clear.