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Let's give it a day to see what comes up.
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Just leave it be!
Of course he'll not play one more game for us. This is just pure politics now!
In order to get a higher bid in, we have to go out and state that he's not for sale and that we have rejected his transfer request.
Next thing is that Chelski will top their bid up, and hopefully some other vultures will also join the race. I can see Real, Barca, Citeh and maybe even Manure jumping on the train!
I for one is now sick of this little boy Torres. I never wanted to beleive he was actually sulking out on the pitch all the time, but that it was just about his bad form.
Now it's totally clear that it was all about sulking.
What I can't cope with is that we have now hit rock bottom and are on our way up again. Just signed Suarez FFS. And what is Torres' response to that? Hand his resignation in!
MORON!
I could have felt some sympathy for him if it happened last summer, when it was clear that we had signed Hodgson, but why now? Kenny has come in, and we have just started playing solid football again.
This shows to me that footballers in common are just merchandise. We should never show any emotion for them, but just demand 100% delivery on the pitch. Never ever accept bad form or missed goal attempts from them. They treat the club like this, and we answer the same way!
TOTAL DISGRACE IT IS! Can people stop saying kenny is in now like it's a reason for torres to stay. Kenny doesnt mean [oops] all to torres or any foreign player. He hasnt f'ing coached in 10 years so most young foreign players wont have even heard of him! And all this now we have suarez, there is such a thing as too little too late. Surely you can see why he would want to leave?
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Can see he wanted to leave before the new owners came in but all the promises made to him was when it was Hicks and Gillet who held the purse strings....Hodgson could have told him whatever he wanted but it wouldn't have made [oops] of difference because the old owners weren't going to spend a f@cking cent....
Henry comes in and says we are going to rebuild and there will be funds available, we sign Suarez and I'm sure there will be at least one more before the wiindow closes so I can't see why he has suddenly changed his mind!
Maybe he was unaware the Suarez had signed and put the transfer in to stop all the bullsh1t over the Suarez deal and he may just have taken the transfer request back once the Suarez deal was done.
We can all speculate as much as we like but none of us will truly know all the facts.
If he stays then lets support him and if he goes then he goes and LFC will become stronger and maye have him eat his words.
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Of course, his reasoning could be very simple - and typical of modern-day players who are inordinately influenced by agents even greedier than themselves.
New star Suarez signs for LFC: obviously on mega-buck contract. Torres' agent learns of the terms, is not happy that wages are same or more than Torres, advises Torres to request whopping great rise and ensure he remains the club's highest paid player (disregarding club captain Stevie G). Of course, this is notwithstanding the fact Torres had one very recently and is already rich beyond the realms of avarice. Agent couldn't care less, he just wants his large cut of the increase.
Club say no, entirely unjustified. Agent tells Torres to submit a transfer request to force the issue. Tough negotiations ensue, player/agent eventually get most of what they want, Suarez is obviously happy with the contract he's signed so no problems with him, fans quieten down eventually and a few months later much of the unpleasant affair seems forgotten.
Sound familiar? Man City fans would think so. Rooney scenario wasn't too different either.
Last edited by Mr Ruddock; 30/01/11 01:02 PM.
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And without wanting to seem autonomous in replying to my own post, I've just remembered... Suarez and Torres share the same agent, so he will know exactly what the pair get.
Unfortunately, I believe the Rooney and Tevez sagas set a precedent and we will see more and more of this sort of thing happening now. Although fans at both those clubs initially reacted with fury the players have since been forgiven.
I will never understand the levels of greed involved here. FFS who couldn't be happy with a mere £110,000 a week whilst playing for Liverpool? Then again perhaps Torres has entered into a contract with his agent whereby he must do whatever the agent tells him. Pure stupidity.
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jose antonio martin = torres agent
daniel fonseca = suarez agent
"Romance has broke down
This boy is crack'in up"
So not a moderator
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Just reading the back page of The Mail, and it's claimed that one of his (unamed) team mates reckons that they all admire him as a player, but he's not loved (presumably as a character).
Sums up my suspicions and views at least.
Last edited by Growler; 30/01/11 02:33 PM.
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Are you talkin about torres? That would make sense.. Still nobody's perfect. One thing though, him staying on the bench (presuming chelsea don't up their offer) won't have too much of a negative effect on moral, given that he's already managed to seperate himself from the rest of the team and they would be used to his sulks. He is certainly a special talent, shame it would be wasted on the no class chelsea
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Are you talkin about torres? That would make sense.. Still nobody's perfect. One thing though, him staying on the bench (presuming chelsea don't up their offer) won't have too much of a negative effect on moral, given that he's already managed to seperate himself from the rest of the team and they would be used to his sulks. He is certainly a special talent, shame it would be wasted on the no class chelsea Obviously. You're right. Total waste. Has the skills, absolutely no doubt, but his moody sulky character need some serious management alignment. Seems to be a prevelant trait amongst Spaniards from what I've seen of them over the years. For those motorsport fans, do you remember Carlos Sainz throwwing a complete and unbelievable wobbly in front of millions of spectators both there at Margen Park and on tv, when his car coughed its clogs just before the finish line, and he lobbed his crash helmet through the rear screen in his temper? 
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For those interested in seeing a Spaniard sportsman losing his rag, look at this John Cleese moment, ranting cursing and kicking.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd_gj-3kz7AIsn't there some equally petulant bad tempered spaniard tennis player too iirc?
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