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What happened?Police officers arrested Steven Gerrard and 5 other men following an alleged row over music in the Lounge Inn, Southport. Where and what is the venue?The Lounge Inn is on Bold Street, Southport. It is best described as a trendy, glamorous venue. Good food is on offer in the restaurant and you can enjoy a late drink as the downstairs dining area is converted into an extension of the bar later in the evening. Why was Gerrard arrested?A formal complaint was made against him. Was he charged?Yes he was charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm (ABH) and affray. But that doesn't mean that he is guilty of either of the offences. Basically the police feel they have enough evidence to warrant charges but they now have to prove his guilt in court, Gerrard doesn't have to prove his innocence. Was anyone else charged?Yes. John Doran, 29, and Ian Smith, 19 years, both from Huyton, also with assault occasioning actual bodily harm and affray. Did anyone get hurt?Yes. A 34-year-old local man called Marcus McGee lost a tooth and needed four stitches to a head wound following the incident. Who is Marcus McGee?It is reported that he's a 34-year-old DJ who allegedly clashed with Gerrard by pushing him in the chest following an alleged row over music. Various reports then claim that Gerrard allegedly caught McGee with his elbow and a fracas broke out involving others. Eye witnesses say they never saw Gerrard throw any punches. It is claimed that Marcus McGee is a Manchester United supporter. There is no proof as yet that McGee or Gerrard did anything wrong. Was Gerrard drunk?An independent witness, John Watts, whos daughter was celebrating her 35th birthday at the venue, said: "When Steven Gerrard found out it was my daughter's birthday he bought her a bottle of champagne. He seemed in very good spirits. He wasn't drunk at all. It was a really civilised occasion in a middle-class bar." Shouldn't Gerrard have been in bed, he is after all a professional footballer?No. He had permission from Liverpool Football Club to attend a venue not known for trouble. According to at least one independent witness, he wasn't drunk. Admittedly nobody wants to see a Liverpool player caught up in any trouble but these situations often find professional footballers when trying to mind their own business. Jealousy and bitching is common, so too is aggrivation from rival supporters. What happens next?The three men charged are due before North Sefton magistrates on January 23rd. What is Affray?These websites will explain it much clearer than we could attempt to * Wikipedia (Affray explained)* The Online Court (Procedure, sentencing etc)What is ABH?These websites will explain it much clearer than we could attempt to * Wikipedia (ABH explained)* The Online Court (Procedure, sentencing etc)Did he do it?We have no idea and it's certainly not for us to speculate and neither should you. Why didn't Liverpool Football Club issue a statement when Gerrard was arrested?They didn't know the facts, just like the police didn't. There was also, and still is, an ongoing criminal investigation. Liverpool Football Club will comment if they feel the need to. A man also received hospital treatment and he could be an innocent victim himself. Is Rafa mad about it all?He could do without it but that doesn't mean that he isn't supportive of the player. Steven will be supported by the club, KopTalk and other supporters, he is after all still an innocent man. It is now in the hands of the Police, the Crown Prosecution Service and the Courts. that's what we all needed , clear Explanation , thanks man lets hope the court will clear him as an innocent
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Like the guy above who works as a doorman I work in a nightclub from time to time and hitting someone in the face with an elbow would get them chucked out, potentially banned from the venue for a given amount of time (down to the venues discretion) but would never involve the police.
The glass to the head and gerrards status are why they are involved, however if these reports are true Gerrards involvement is nothing. You could argue he should know better than to retaliate but then at 2:30am it's hard to keep that side in check.
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What happened?Police officers arrested Steven Gerrard and 5 other men following an alleged row over music in the Lounge Inn, Southport. Where and what is the venue?The Lounge Inn is on Bold Street, Southport. It is best described as a trendy, glamorous venue. Good food is on offer in the restaurant and you can enjoy a late drink as the downstairs dining area is converted into an extension of the bar later in the evening. Why was Gerrard arrested?A formal complaint was made against him. Was he charged?Yes he was charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm (ABH) and affray. But that doesn't mean that he is guilty of either of the offences. Basically the police feel they have enough evidence to warrant charges but they now have to prove his guilt in court, Gerrard doesn't have to prove his innocence. Was anyone else charged?Yes. John Doran, 29, and Ian Smith, 19 years, both from Huyton, also with assault occasioning actual bodily harm and affray. Did anyone get hurt?Yes. A 34-year-old local man called Marcus McGee lost a tooth and needed four stitches to a head wound following the incident. Who is Marcus McGee?It is reported that he's a 34-year-old DJ who allegedly clashed with Gerrard by pushing him in the chest following an alleged row over music. Various reports then claim that Gerrard allegedly caught McGee with his elbow and a fracas broke out involving others. Eye witnesses say they never saw Gerrard throw any punches. It is claimed that Marcus McGee is a Manchester United supporter. There is no proof as yet that McGee or Gerrard did anything wrong. Was Gerrard drunk?An independent witness, John Watts, whos daughter was celebrating her 35th birthday at the venue, said: "When Steven Gerrard found out it was my daughter's birthday he bought her a bottle of champagne. He seemed in very good spirits. He wasn't drunk at all. It was a really civilised occasion in a middle-class bar." Shouldn't Gerrard have been in bed, he is after all a professional footballer?No. He had permission from Liverpool Football Club to attend a venue not known for trouble. According to at least one independent witness, he wasn't drunk. Admittedly nobody wants to see a Liverpool player caught up in any trouble but these situations often find professional footballers when trying to mind their own business. Jealousy and bitching is common, so too is aggrivation from rival supporters. What happens next?The three men charged are due before North Sefton magistrates on January 23rd. What is Affray?These websites will explain it much clearer than we could attempt to * Wikipedia (Affray explained)* The Online Court (Procedure, sentencing etc)What is ABH?These websites will explain it much clearer than we could attempt to * Wikipedia (ABH explained)* The Online Court (Procedure, sentencing etc)Did he do it?We have no idea and it's certainly not for us to speculate and neither should you. Why didn't Liverpool Football Club issue a statement when Gerrard was arrested?They didn't know the facts, just like the police didn't. There was also, and still is, an ongoing criminal investigation. Liverpool Football Club will comment if they feel the need to. A man also received hospital treatment and he could be an innocent victim himself. Is Rafa mad about it all?He could do without it but that doesn't mean that he isn't supportive of the player. Steven will be supported by the club, KopTalk and other supporters, he is after all still an innocent man. It is now in the hands of the Police, the Crown Prosecution Service and the Courts. that's what we all needed , clear Explanation , thanks man lets hope the court will clear him as an innocent Thanks Dunk for the info
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Ahh it sounds like a load of rubbish to me. Some people need to man up a little. If the guy pushed Gerrard first then he has to accept the effects of his actions. Its weird you know, the police cannot catch those who are stealing from the players houses whilst matches are on, or even when they are in Gerrard's house, holding his wife captive while his two young girls sleep upstairs, but they have the sickening right to charge him for what seems to have been a tiff that got out of hand because of Mr McGee!
The man better watch his back! Im guessing a few people would do alot more than just make him lose a tooth for his actions.
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LFC offical statement :
A statement from the club said: "Steven has been an outstanding servant to Liverpool for the last 10 years and the club will give him all the support he needs at this time."
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Greets from Athens/Greece...
I'm strong LFC supporter, since that glorious night in Rome, in 1984.
I'm also S.Gerrard's STRONG supporter, since 29 November 1998 against Blackburn...
I'm reading all the available English newspapers, watching the news on the telly in English channels, reading sport blogs/fora...
That incident... STINGS! Our Cap was a REGULARLY CUSTOMER in this fancy place, like a barmaid said (the one she had her birthday).
EVERYBODY knows, S.Gerrard is a CALM/COOL/COLD-BLOOD person, TOTALY PROFESSIONAL, always covering his thoughts/emotions, he's STRONGLY cares about his image to the peaple and he would NEVER-EVER do or THOUGHT to do something like that (assaulting a man, in a luxurious bar, where he's GOING often there!)...
That reminds me the "Zidan's Incident" in the World Cup Final, when that [oops] Materazzi cursed Zidan and he lost his temper and hit him... Althougn, S.Gerrard is BY FAR MORE "cool-headed" than Zidan (he's an Englishman and he's a Mediterranean, for pitty sake!)...
And... I don't have to MARK this... That 34 Marcus McGee "HAPPENS" to be... ManU's supporter!!! WHAT A "COINCIDENCE"!!!
So, let see the LFC's facts:
1. After SO LONG, a band of "provincials" (WE!) are back ON TOP!
2. We are "Winter's Champs", with SUPERB last wins!
3. Stevie G. has SUPERB/GREAT performance; he leads the way!
4. Stevie G. was been "threaten" several times by "some" (call me BOOKIES), to "fabricate" many matches.
5. Manchester Utd was WAY TOO BELLOW the poll... and "they" doing their best to push them up!
6. Manchester Utd finally made to "aproached" us with 7 pts behind and -2 matches.
7. A MANCHESTER UTD SUPPORTER, a PROVOCATEUR to me, with actually no reason at all, PROVOKED Steven Gerrard and his friends and he started an "incident"...
To me, after reading all these news/reports, I'm having this final comment:
This "INCIDENT" it's totally a FABRICATED event took place, by a ManU's supporter to his rival & hateful team's captain!
Without a serious reason, he provoked S.Gerrard, a regular customer in that club, which he was totally calm and not drunk at all, cursed him etc.
"They" were trying to find SOMETHING to hurt S.G's image - a good father of two baby-girls, a great player, a superb professional totally devoted to his team... AND THEY DID IT!
That's my comment to all this...
People of Merseyside, LFC blood-brothers, you should protesting right now, outside LFC's offices.
The team DIDN'T say anything, no press-statement, no support to S.G.
That's outrageous! I wish to be now in POOL!!! I'm FURIOUS about that "incident"! I'm sure these bloody Mancs are behind of this!
Cheers to all Liver-mates.
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Greets from Athens/Greece...
I'm strong LFC supporter, since that glorious night in Rome, in 1984.
I'm also S.Gerrard's STRONG supporter, since 29 November 1998 against Blackburn...
I'm reading all the available English newspapers, watching the news on the telly in English channels, reading sport blogs/fora...
That incident... STINGS! Our Cap was a REGULARLY CUSTOMER in this fancy place, like a barmaid said (the one she had her birthday).
EVERYBODY knows, S.Gerrard is a CALM/COOL/COLD-BLOOD person, TOTALY PROFESSIONAL, always covering his thoughts/emotions, he's STRONGLY cares about his image to the peaple and he would NEVER-EVER do or THOUGHT to do something like that (assaulting a man, in a luxurious bar, where he's GOING often there!)...
That reminds me the "Zidan's Incident" in the World Cup Final, when that [oops] Materazzi cursed Zidan and he lost his temper and hit him... Althougn, S.Gerrard is BY FAR MORE "cool-headed" than Zidan (he's an Englishman and he's a Mediterranean, for pitty sake!)...
And... I don't have to MARK this... That 34 Marcus McGee "HAPPENS" to be... ManU's supporter!!! WHAT A "COINCIDENCE"!!!
So, let see the LFC's facts:
1. After SO LONG, a band of "provincials" (WE!) are back ON TOP!
2. We are "Winter's Champs", with SUPERB last wins!
3. Stevie G. has SUPERB/GREAT performance; he leads the way!
4. Stevie G. was been "threaten" several times by "some" (call me BOOKIES), to "fabricate" many matches.
5. Manchester Utd was WAY TOO BELLOW the poll... and "they" doing their best to push them up!
6. Manchester Utd finally made to "aproached" us with 7 pts behind and -2 matches.
7. A MANCHESTER UTD SUPPORTER, a PROVOCATEUR to me, with actually no reason at all, PROVOKED Steven Gerrard and his friends and he started an "incident"...
To me, after reading all these news/reports, I'm having this final comment:
This "INCIDENT" it's totally a FABRICATED event took place, by a ManU's supporter to his rival & hateful team's captain!
Without a serious reason, he provoked S.Gerrard, a regular customer in that club, which he was totally calm and not drunk at all, cursed him etc.
"They" were trying to find SOMETHING to hurt S.G's image - a good father of two baby-girls, a great player, a superb professional totally devoted to his team... AND THEY DID IT!
That's my comment to all this...
People of Merseyside, LFC blood-brothers, you should protesting right now, outside LFC's offices.
The team DIDN'T say anything, no press-statement, no support to S.G.
That's outrageous! I wish to be now in POOL!!! I'm FURIOUS about that "incident"! I'm sure these bloody Mancs are behind of this!
Cheers to all Liver-mates. I won;t say that it was all set up, but that DJ being a SCUM fans has something to do with provoking gerrard... And IMO, Liverpool Football Club has issued the right statement, short and supporting our captain, as all lfc fans do... We are strong enough to go through this and not worried at all... We'll land that number 19...
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I was on wiki looking for anton ferdinand (don't ask why), and I stumbled on this very interesting section of the entry.
"In October 2006 Ferdinand was arrested on assault charges following a fracas outside a nightclub in Ilford. He was charged in November 2006 . He appeared at Snaresbrook Crown Court on 12 November 2007 charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm and affray, arising from this incident. It was alleged that Ferdinand had punched Emile Walker. In his defence Ferdinand said he had feared he was going to be robbed of his £64,000 watch and was defending himself. On 20 November 2007 Ferdinand was acquitted as the jury found that he may have been acting in self defence"
Doesn't sound that different to the current situation with Stevie
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