ADMINS DON'T MERGE THIS THREAD PLEASE
First all this was brought about by the reliable Guillem Balague,
'Torres has asked Liverpool to listen to Chelsea's offer, Torres wants to see if Chelsea bring the money, and if Liverpool are convinced he is willing to go. There is no buy out clause, so it is completely out of the hands of the player and in the hands of Liverpool, if they eventualy want to sell him.'
When asked about any possible clause in his contract he replied
'It is my understanding and I haven't seen the contract is NO, the player is completely in the hands of Liverpool, and if they don't want to sell, they won't sell and there is nothing the player can do.'
The reasoning behind this is years of broken promises fron LFC heirearky.
Sky sports Interview
That is the only information which anyone has recieved over Torres today. So all the newer stories have based their story on this.
In the above quotes it clearly says that he'll like to go but only if LFC agree a fee, If Kenny Dalglish, Commoli and the owners all agree then he'll be sold.
So do you trust Kenny Dalglish as manager of Liverpool has to be the question, If yes then whatever happens believe it's good for the club.
On talksport Tony Evans the editor of the Times has said Torres has phoned and gave lfc a transfer request, and that Tony Barrett of Liverpool Echo will write an article about it tommorrow.
That information from Evans has given no new meaning to the Balague information which in my eyes was far more informative than what Evans has said on talksport. It doesn't say Torres has given a written official transfer request or that he's definately moving, the only conclusive thing that Evans has said on talksport is that it was done by phone, other than that it's exactly what Balague said in the morning .
Tony Evans in the summer told talksport that Gerrard and Torres would be going with gerrard to Real Madrid,
Did it happen nope!
These are quotes from Torres In August -
'This is the best club in the country so the targets and expectations are always high. I am really happy to be back, really happy to stay with all my team-mates. My commitment and loyalty to the club and to the fans is the same as it was on my first day when I signed.'
All that has changed from then to now, is he's had a shocker season, Hodgson has gone with Dalglish in. Nothing to do with the ambition of the club could have possibley have changed in those months as we couldn't sign players then. Also let me stress Torres according to Balague wanted to join Chelsea then when he made those quotes in August but as no bid was accepted he stayed.
Torres quotes in September-
'It is fundamental new owners arrive that can make us a competitive side. We're not that far behind. We had an appalling season last time around, but the year before we were just four points from Manchester United. Hopefully we can find a consortium that buys the club and can make Liverpool able to fight financially with Chelsea and United, That's how I see it. I like to have targets, and to be able to help bring Liverpool back where they deserve is a beautiful target. The club received offers and decided to reject them, That's where it ends. Everyone thought I was leaving for Spain during the World Cup when there was nothing in it. I said the day I returned to train that my future was at Liverpool. I have a contract until 2013. This year our target has to be the top four. Like every team-mate, we all want to improve and win titles and for that it is fundamental we get new owners.'
Again this suggests he'd like owners to spend money and bring lfc back to the good days and so he'll win stuff here. We justed signed Suarez a player he rates and would like to play with. A site which had our transfer news said Torres may have asked about the Chelsea offer as no one had been bought with it coming to the end of the window, especialy when senior players at the club where told that the club were going after Suarez early in Jnauary before Dalglish came.
This quote is from 9th january less than 3 weeks ago from when I presume he was told we'd sign Suarez.
'My head is in Liverpool and on helping save our season. I am professional and I always fulfil my deals. I haven't considered leaving, although in football that depends on the club.'
There he again backs what Balague has said last summer and today on sky sports saying he's happy staying and will only go if Liverpool accept a bid to sell him.
Finaly this was from after the derby when Dalglish was introduced and training had improved due to Hodgson and his meathods going-
'We are disappointed with the result but we are improving and moving in the right direction, We will see what happens in the next game. We need to start picking up three points in every game'
We have just won 2 successive games and have Stoke next, factor in that we also have Suarez and I'm sure we'll be putting a lot more strings of wins over the remainder of this season.
The club won't sell him now as there is simply not enough time to bring replacements in and Commoli only signed Suarez as he believes he's the perfect complement to Torres' game in a David Villa mould. If the club were told that Torres wants to immediately leave in the morning or last night and there was to be no disscution about it I'm sure we wouldn't have signed Suarez today.
Also lets factor in the amount of BS talksport has come up with, I've seen numourous people slag them off in the shout box (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE) over the last few weeks.
I'm sure after reading this post by myself you honestly won't still believe Torres will leave unless Lfc decide to sell him.
That in my mind is the only way Torres will leave Anfield this January and this summer. Also lets face it in the summer we are going to go mad in the market signing all sorts of players, so why would he leave then if the new owners back the club and take us to the stage of Chelsea and Man Utd with a very good squad and contradict himself in the quote above.
Admins don't merge this thread
Bottom line is, Lfc will sell or keep Torres, so do you trust Kenny Dalglish's judgment should be the question on everyone's lips.
YNWA
