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It might be a fact but remember he was not forced to sell Keane. He was not forced to sell Alonso. He was not forced to sell Arbeloa.

At certain times that balance sheet looked very different did it not?

To be honest all this bickering is pointless.

Yes i believe at times Rafa does show incredible arrogance, and in a way last season was a bad result. I just cannot believe that anyone believes that our current squad is good enough to win the premiership! we couldn't last year and we wont this year. Our squad is made up of very few talented players and some very mediocre ones (in the majority). quite simply we have no depth. An injury to Torres, Kuyt, and Gerrard and we are as threatening as stoke or Hull (probably less if the buy Negrado). I am however left asking myself is this arrogance forced (to protect the real picture of a club with massive debt and no transfer funds) or is it just Spanish stubbornness and pig headedness.
I hope sadly the former, because if Rafa does truly believe he can win the EPL with the players he has at present, he's going to look pretty stupid next season with less funds and no Champs league

Never said that he was forced to sell anyone of them. As we all know the were some different circumstances in those transfers (alonso and arby wanted to leave, the keane situation...)
But without the money from their sales we would never have got Glen or Aquilani, or someone else for that matter.

I seriously doubt that the Keane sale was needed to fund the Johnson buy, considering most of the money came from the Crouch money, and Aquilani would never have been bought if we had Alonso anyway so its an irrelevant point.

My main point is though that whatever the outs and ins have been, there has not been many, if any, situations where Benitez has not been allowed to spend money on who he wants.

17 million on Mascherano, 20 million on Torres, 20 million on Keane, 17 million on Johnson, 6.5 million on Skrtel.

Its been a while since he has been forced to shop around in the bargain bins, and when he did we heard about it! If he was upset this year then he'd have been all over the press moaning. He's not one to keep quiet when he feels he's been hard done by now is he?

No, what seems obvious to 95% of LFC fans is that the Americans say one thing and do another.

The fact is that we have a very small balance on transfers over the past two years.

We pay £30m interest each year as the Americans do not have the integrity to do what they said they would and buy LFC with their own money.

If you want a successful football team you need to invest in players on the pitch.

Even if we stump up £25m for a player before the end of the transfer window that still leaves a balance of about £15m spent for each of the past two years which isnt a great deal in the modern game if you want to win titles...

The fundamental problem at this club is ownership, the sooner the Americans go the better.

Yet we still have a good shot at the title this season, there is such a long way to go, cant believe these keen jerk stupid reactions with one bad result.

Again you put words in my mouth. Never said that Keane was sold directly to fund the Johnson buy, and of course Aquilani would'nt be here if Alonso still were. But what i said was that without the sales of players we probably would'nt have got any new faces into the squad (in this case Glen and Aquilani)

Last summer it was said that Rafa had a transferkitty of 20m plus that he would get what was generated from any sales, and this summer he was going to be handed another 20m. Simple math shows that if that was true he would now sit on a transferkitty of around 35m at least. I hope he does but the feeling is that the yanks have lied to us again and that there is no money...

Seriously Zola! you are havin a laugh.

Emp you're supporting the wrong team.

We have never ever played that sort of football. The closest we have ever came was at the end of the eighties and that team still had some hard no nonsense men and you appear to be against any such kind of players.

they have backed him by buying him virtualy every player he has wanted to bring to the club. As for people on here saying the Waiter inherated a worse squad when he took over than Wenger I think people are forgeting how poor Arsenal were under Bruce Rioch and I would say Big Sami, Carragher, Riise, Finnan, Gerrard and Hamann are a pretty decent foundation to build any team on probably as good as the Seaman, Adams, Bould, Dixon, Winterburn and Bergkamp one at the time.

Ricardo quote: "P.S. Yeah I think Ferguson's record since then has pretty much made up for that"

well Ric, can I suggest we give Benítez the same time scale if not the money before slagging him off all the time 4FS!!!

Honestly anyone reading this thread would think that the yanks are great owners and Rafa is a crap manager who has not done anything good for the Club!

Sorry but it's absolutely pathetic and unfounded!!! ...and there's me thinking we are the best supporters in the world.

Many comments on here, all be them intelligent and well thought out, seem to me to be like that of this new disposable generation; those of fast food, fast everything and the quick fix now ira with no regard or respect for working for something that's worth keeping.

Now call me old fashioned but where's the Liverpool spirit going? OK I know things at the Club are not perfect. It's been ages since we were top of the pops and it hurts but what are we if we don't get behind our team and the manager? I'll tell you what, we'll be like every other club in England and that's a depressing thought!