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this sounds to me like somebody has spotted an opportunity for either a big compensation claim, or to besmirch Gerrards name.

I'm a nightclub doorman, and I see incidents like this, and an awful lot worse on a regular basis. Normally this would barely have resulted in a caution or 2. It sounds like the guy that got hospitalised is making as much of it as possible. I very much doubt either party is blameless, or that anyone will recieve a custodial sentence.

The police will be making sure they do everything by the book due to the intense media interest. Thats why the 6 men were held so long, in my opinion.

Its hardly a Duncan Ferguson or Joey Barton type incident, it will all blow over (I hope)

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This type of incident happened all the time and because he is Steve G and of course that "victims" is from Old toilet which make things more "complicated".

Anyway, I believe Steve G will be alright. let support him and LFC through thick and thin. Cheers.... smile

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Source: “Marcus pushed Gerrard in the chest and, almost instinctively, Gerrard hit back with his elbow in Marcus’s mouth.

“Gerrard stepped back and walked away but his mates piled on top of Marcus and one of them smashed a beer bottle over his head. The whole thing lasted less than ten seconds.

“Gerrard was pulled out of the scrapping and it turned into a free-for-all.

"The doormen all ran in and the club seemed to empty in seconds. We didn’t see who went where.

“People were rushing to Marcus’s side. He had a light-coloured shirt on and it was stained with blood.”

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Dunk,

if it is true, gerrard did elbow him, do you think he can escape from jail term? I hope just fine and public service since he was provoked. frown

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If it is true and Gerrard did elbow him, surely this is classed as self defence after Gerrard was allegedly attacked first by Marcus?

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Originally Posted By: alanmacca
Dunk,

if it is true, gerrard did elbow him, do you think he can escape from jail term? I hope just fine and public service since he was provoked. frown



I'm not worried at all mate. Witnesses are claiming the DJ made the first move.

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if I were Ger, I kicked the cock instead :o]

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i wonder how long till this so-called dj is in all the papers selling his story?
i have heard almost exactly the same as you dunk - the dj had a dig at gerrard who defended himself and then his mates gave the guy a slap ...... just another example of media hype building up a nothing story into something just to sell a few papers

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i don't know about the laws in UK , as i'm outside , so let me know ,is stevie supposed 2 be jailed if he did the 1st move and elbowed the Dj man ??

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What happened?

Police officers arrested Steven Gerrard and 5 other men following an alleged row over music in the Lounge Inn, Southport.

Where and what is the venue?

The Lounge Inn is on Bold Street, Southport. It is best described as a trendy, glamorous venue. Good food is on offer in the restaurant and you can enjoy a late drink as the downstairs dining area is converted into an extension of the bar later in the evening.

Why was Gerrard arrested?

A formal complaint was made against him.

Was he charged?

Yes he was charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm (ABH) and affray. But that doesn't mean that he is guilty of either of the offences. Basically the police feel they have enough evidence to warrant charges but they now have to prove his guilt in court, Gerrard doesn't have to prove his innocence.

Was anyone else charged?

Yes. John Doran, 29, and Ian Smith, 19 years, both from Huyton, also with assault occasioning actual bodily harm and affray.

Did anyone get hurt?

Yes. A 34-year-old local man called Marcus McGee lost a tooth and needed four stitches to a head wound following the incident.

Who is Marcus McGee?

It is reported that he's a 34-year-old DJ who allegedly clashed with Gerrard by pushing him in the chest following an alleged row over music. Various reports then claim that Gerrard allegedly caught McGee with his elbow and a fracas broke out involving others. Eye witnesses say they never saw Gerrard throw any punches. It is claimed that Marcus McGee is a Manchester United supporter. There is no proof as yet that McGee or Gerrard did anything wrong.

Was Gerrard drunk?

An independent witness, John Watts, whos daughter was celebrating her 35th birthday at the venue, said: "When Steven Gerrard found out it was my daughter's birthday he bought her a bottle of champagne. He seemed in very good spirits. He wasn't drunk at all. It was a really civilised occasion in a middle-class bar."

Shouldn't Gerrard have been in bed, he is after all a professional footballer?

No. He had permission from Liverpool Football Club to attend a venue not known for trouble. According to at least one independent witness, he wasn't drunk. Admittedly nobody wants to see a Liverpool player caught up in any trouble but these situations often find professional footballers when trying to mind their own business. Jealousy and bitching is common, so too is aggrivation from rival supporters.

What happens next?

The three men charged are due before North Sefton magistrates on January 23rd.

What is Affray?

These websites will explain it much clearer than we could attempt to

* Wikipedia (Affray explained)

* The Online Court (Procedure, sentencing etc)

What is ABH?

These websites will explain it much clearer than we could attempt to

* Wikipedia (ABH explained)

* The Online Court (Procedure, sentencing etc)

Did he do it?

We have no idea and it's certainly not for us to speculate and neither should you.

Why didn't Liverpool Football Club issue a statement when Gerrard was arrested?

They didn't know the facts, just like the police didn't. There was also, and still is, an ongoing criminal investigation. Liverpool Football Club will comment if they feel the need to. A man also received hospital treatment and he could be an innocent victim himself.

Is Rafa mad about it all?

He could do without it but that doesn't mean that he isn't supportive of the player. Steven will be supported by the club, KopTalk and other supporters, he is after all still an innocent man. It is now in the hands of the Police, the Crown Prosecution Service and the Courts.

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