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Benitez was a monster and a tyrant, he got off lightly with the critism he got after the time and money he wasted, if it was up to me I would of took the fellers passport off him and banned him from ever setting foot in this country again, horrible man that...

So you miss him then? Me too.

And the way Hodgson treats his players in the press is not something done by a "monster and a tyrant", then?

Question: you seem overly concerned that Benitez was a foreigner, so is it not true that you're mainly supporting Roy because he is English? You're as stubborn as he is, though you came out in defense of Lucas in another thread which I found surprising seeing as Benitez bought him.

Lucas is a fans scapegoat and does'nt deserve the unfair stick he gets, theres a waster like Torres who all season has sulked, spat his dummy out and shown body language thats shows he clearly does'nt want to be here yet nobody says a word, yet Lucas no matter how bad he plays, never hides, never gives up and you can see he really wants to be here and do well gets slammed, it just does'nt add up.

That sounds just like a proper winner mentality, Reclaim!

'Defend the weak' and 'Feck off the strong' is the best way forwards then?

'All' our good players (about 3 persons) can just feck off, 'cause they're only lazy. The other players further down the pecking order on the other hand obviously need support from everywhere.

And the same goes for the crap manager. Since he's weak You per definition defend him! Rafa made some good things with the team in his days, which means he needs to be slugged off!

Truely logical!!

I'm not trying to be top dog here... The point is there's been abusive posts from here, there and everywhere. And I didn't say it was from you.

It's not unfair stick mate, he simply isn't good enough. It's not an opinion, it's FACT and the weekend showed this as clear as the nose on your face.

So am I right in saying that you think he deserves to stay there because he tries hard. Crap I'd try hard out there too but it doesn't mean I should be in the team. Trying hard doesn't make a good player.

Just because some misguided individuals put him in the team doesn't mean he is good enough, it just means they either didn't have an alternative or they were watching different games to the rest of us.

If he was good enough then he would have more than one goal to his name and Torres and Gerrard and Ngog, etc will be getting more goals too.

i think lucas is capable of putting in a shift, but he is a player who seems to need a lot of guidence, and he aint getting it.

So we're all agreed that Lucas isn't what you think of when you hear the words "Brazillian midfielder". But he isn't our worst player, laziest player or our biggest problem.

Slow, uninspired football. Stagnant thinking & tactics and negativity on the pitch, and off it, in these forums.

Credit where it's due a DECENT performances against Blackburn and Napoli. Obdurate against Bolton and Chelsea (with a little individual inspiration thrown in). However, I don't think that players or fans see a bright future with Roy as manager.

Normal service is continuing but not simply Lucas's performance but at the club. The slow decline has been in place for a long time; propped up by some fantastic individuals (again, on and off the pitch). What's needed is leadership, everywhere; boardroom, management and players.

Lucas may be limited in what he's doing but he isn't shirking, he's isn't pointing fingers elsewhere and he isn't responsible for the team line up, playing style or inertia when plan A isn't working.