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I think your mad if you think Roy will have no say and it would be a complete disaster, commolli has the fill the position that Roys feels needs filling and fill them with players that fit Roys system if he just goes out and buys players without consulting Roy then we are royally screwed.


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Originally Posted By: Armitage Shanks
Benitez was a dictator shall we get him back. Hodgson's not a dictator either. So you say that we need a dictator, therefore we should get rid of hodgson as he is not a dictator.


I think this is the key point though. Roy doesn't have the assertive personality one needs to take the dictator role (or at least not as far as I can see from the side lines). The primary reason Benitez and H&G were always at odds was precisely because he didn't have control, so they gave him control of transfers but then took his money away (sale of Alonso money mysteriously missing). Ergo the "mutual" nature of Rafa leaving the club; he knew he couldn't continue to work in the same fashion, and in order to sell the club LFC needed to appear more accommodating in terms of how money would be spent by the manager. A sugar-daddy owner coming in would not want to always fight with a control freak manager about money.

NESV have expressed an interest in building the club for the future, so they will (through Commolli) control purchases of older players (aka they won't sign old/average players just because they have some experience). Roy has stated that looking after the academy, the reserves, and the first team is too much for him (it wasn't too much for Rafa, or Fergie, or Wenger, or any other top manager) ergo Roy is either bad at his job or just lazy, the latter generally being equitable with "bad at his job". He will therefore need someone to hold his hand during the transfer window as well; I can't see how this is bad for LFC (could be bad for Roy, but I'm not concerned about him).

I therefore can't see how the role of Commolli and the role of Parry are any different, except that Commolli knows a whole lot more about what makes a footballer worth signing.

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fergie and wenger are succesful managers

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Originally Posted By: Armitage Shanks
emp = reclaim = fawerkarely red = (prob) redforlife
feck me that is one hell of an insult


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@merseysack: Roy will certainly have a say! Commolli is not the guy training the team how to play. Therefore Roy will have an idea what kind of players he will need, and the idea should be that he and Commolli sit down together and work out who they can get and how they will impact the team (maybe they can't sign their first choice, so who should they look at next, and how is he different to the ideal and how can they work that into the team strategy etc). Definitely a position where both parties have equal input; as I said, Commolli will essentially act as Roy's conscience.

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i can't be bothered to change names, bit childish all that ... I only have one account, ihave only ever had 1 account on kop talk (this one)..

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Originally Posted By: emp
of course he knows that, he just was to get his horrible bitter opinion over.


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Originally Posted By: emp
christ i love the way you can find excuses for every period in rafa's liverpool career.parry made the signings (untruthful,boring,crap) lets thank parry for alonso and torres then or did he just make the bad ones? then wafa got control but didn't get the money and left by mutual consent. more like wafa got his 5 yr contract from people he knew he didn't like him and were not going to give him money and then waited to get paid off by them.
roy comes into this mess and is instantly abused by idiots , I feel sorry for him. if it doesn't work out i hope all ye bitter fans get your frank rijkard or some other idiot you wanted as manager


Did you actually read what I wrote? I wasn't finding an excuse for Rafa. He made bad signings. So? Everyone does. I was actually trying to highlight that Rafa was a control freak, that he fit the dictator role you said we needed, rather than mild-mannered Roy who can't be bothered to look after the academy (and where we will be doing most of our transfer activity I am sure).

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And if Rafa played the board for the fools they were? Again, so? He missed targets two seasons in a row because of the owners; he was the one taking all the stick for signing Keane and Aquilani, after all (and still is). If that happened to you would you be happy about it? Maybe he set a trap for them, and maybe they fell into it, but that doesn't mean Roy is a fantastic manager nor that Commolli is not a good appointment. For a moderator you're not very good at staying on topic.
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