christ your a tiresome bunch. rafa fooked up ,thats all there is to it.if he didn't he would still be here. and roy hasn't been given long enough or the funds enough to settle into his job properly .yes he hasn't set the world on fire and some of his transfers have been poor .but he is working under limited conditions that previous managers haven't been. its that simple and you all know it.
This is the truly tiresome point. Roy is in exactly the same boat as Rafa was, but we're sinking faster with him at the helm. Roy was brought in to provide stability; if you consider our current position and its relationship with history both recent and ancient to be "stable" then Roy has succeeded in your eyes. But the rest of us watch the side continuing to play hoofball like strangers in the park 4 months after his appointment, and we can't see when this mythical stability is about to kick in. And if it does kick in, will it happen soon enough for Roy to be able to keep us playing in Europe? Without a ticket to Europe we will struggle to keep our top players and will struggle to attract other top players, and that will doom us to playing for 5th at best for the next few seasons. We don't think the squad is that bad that our future should be so bleak (lose only three players but go from 86 points to 60 in two seasons), and if the squad is adequate then it can only be the manager who is fouling things up. Rafa helped, yes, but destiny is in Roy's hands, yet all he's doing is playing for the draw and hoping other results continue to go our way all the way until May. That isn't going to happen, no matter how optimistic you are. We need an injection of life, but Roy seems to be sucking it out instead.