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Listen Lad, your just embarrassing yourself trying to fight your case on this one, you have lost, the facts are there in front of you so move on and maybe try to argue your case on a post you have a chance of winning...

I think you'll find your the one who's just had his arse handed to him.

You dont have the intelect to debate with a poster like Rafar so I suggest you stop now before you make yourself look even more stupid than you already are.

What you talking about, I have just given him clear facts which you cant argue with and the feller is still trying to make a case, he has had the floor wiped with him over that and should just leave it at that, anyway what are you defending him for he should'nt need anyone to argue his case unless ofcorse your his bum chum...

So taggart is a bad manager due to the fact Leeds won at old trafford and southend beat them in the league cup going on your theory?

makes me laugh all the years benitez played weakened teams in the FA and League cups nothing was said hodgson does exactly what 95% of all manager do play weakened teams and liverpool get knocked out and there uproar benitez done it nothing said .

As I expected a child like response.

Your the laughing stock of the forum and your the only one that cant see it.

This is like arguing with a wall. Faz, Reclaim, neither of you is acting in the slightest bit objective about anything. Your arguments in other threads where you also make foolish statements and then defend them with your lives despite no real justification simply show you for the blind fools you are.

I've said it already - Rafa had 6 seasons with Liverpool, and it stands to reason he would have disappointing results during this time; finding them would be easy, just as it would if one had a look at the careers of fergie or Wenger. The point is that these results cannot be taken in a vacuum. We lost to Reading at a time when our football was blowing hot and cold - beating Villa away and Spurs at home, but only managing a draw against City away, and had the disappointment of being dropped into the Europa Cup during the same period (where we would go on to dominate at home). Rafa fielded a strong side against Reading at home because the weakened one he sent to Reading only managed to draw. We still lost, and it was a black mark on his career; this cannot be denied. I recall Rafa looking absolutely gutted, and apologizing to the fans.

So let's compare this period with that of Roy's home defeat to Northampton (since you seem to believe they are of the same significance). Roy's squad was high on confidence coming on the back of his appointment, the signing of Cole and Meireles, some of our players had evidence of playing in the World Cup final, and we had a run of 5 consecutive wins in the Europa Cup. We also managed to draw with Arsenal despite playing most of the game with 10 men. Morale? Roy 1, Rafa 0.

Roy then picked a side that more resembled the academy than the reserves, and did not plan anything in terms of a substitution strategy. When things went wrong, rather than attempt to right them with tactics, substitution, or encouragement, HE LET THEM FAIL. In the press he then slammed the players as not being up to standard, and hasn't picked any of the younger members of the squad since, outside a cameo from Shelvey. In the EPL during this period, rather than beating Villa away, Spurs at home, and drawing with City away, we have lost badly to city away, lost to Blackpool at home, and drawn with Sunderland at home. One failure does not make you a bad manager. A number of failures all at the same time when you had all the options available makes you a bad manager, and that is what Roy is at this level.

The facts speak for themselves. LFC under Rafa played a higher quality of football in general despite lower morale, but lost in the FA Cup to a side that was perhaps more desperate to win. Under Roy, LFC has played poor football in general despite initially high morale, and lost to a side that in all honesty should not have beaten even the weakened team we fielded had the manager had a clue, and he then had the gall to blame the players for his failure.

Roy OUT!

Thats because Rafa had us at the right end of the table and usually past the group stages of the champions league,the FA cup was not a priority and rightly so.
Anyhow i dont understand all the fuss,you wanted Rafa out,you got a new manager(apparently)in,you should be happy and enjoying the benefits of getting your wish?
Blaming Benitez for roy lowering the standards of this club is so laughable,you seem to forget who raised those standards in the first place.

Absolutely right. Without Rafa, we would never have had such high expectations. Rafa is being misinterpreted by everyone and this is down to the media who is deliberately stirring up beef between the 2 managers.

Mid table would have meant 9,10,11 placed finish we came 7th,finishing below 2 teams that spent over £200m combined in 18 months.You think roy is going to do better?Trust me we got the last two wins DESPITE of roy not because of him.