not one for defending hodgson but certainly at the start we at least tried to press forward, there were large parts of the game where we lost it, too many players had a bad game, impossible to believe it, gerard had a bad game, cole did meireles didnt do much (i knowhe was moved etc) torres had an awful game but i never knock him as he got an assist there, and we managed to turn their defenders, which liverpool havent done for years, with a decent winger we would progress. now if we can beat chelsea roy will have to redefine utopia..Roy not for the chop just yet so it would seem. I think we would still do better with no manager gerard caragher as player manager or any one as manager for that matter but at least we are not at the bottom for the time being