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#85774 30/10/10 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: Reclaim The Club
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how are they divided? because you say they are? just because you are controversial and stubbornly delusional it does not give you the right to create conflict between our football club and one of our players. in the 10 games you've seen us play this season how many players have performed well? the answer is none and our league position proves it... so stop using torres as a scapegoat and get off your f*cking high horse and stop being so narrow minded its pathetic
Listen You, the post says who do you want out and I have said Johnson and Torres thats my opinion, I have then faced people calling me names and asking me to explain why and thats why I have given the reasons I have. I know there has hardly been any players who have played well this season, but for me two of our most scostly signings have been the worst. Johnson should never of been signed for nearly 20 million instead of Arbeloa who only cost about 2.5 million all down to an incompetent manager and Torres attitude has stunk for a while especialy last season when he put country before club and decided to have an operation to save his world cup instead of playing for us. Those are valid reasons for me and alot of others to dislike these two players and I happen to think they have become a drain on the club rather than an assett, Johnson coz he's simply sh*t and Torres because he's always injured, does'nt try and wants to leave first chance he gets. So winde your neck in will you and open your eyes to the reasons am giving.


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Go for it lads!

This debate is a pure Shakespearean master piece.


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Originally Posted By: want3d
how are they divided? because you say they are? just because you are controversial and stubbornly delusional it does not give you the right to create conflict between our football club and one of our players. in the 10 games you've seen us play this season how many players have performed well? the answer is none and our league position proves it... so stop using torres as a scapegoat and get off your f*cking high horse and stop being so narrow minded its pathetic
Listen You, the post says who do you want out and I have said Johnson and Torres thats my opinion, I have then faced people calling me names and asking me to explain why and thats why I have given the reasons I have. I know there has hardly been any players who have played well this season, but for me two of our most scostly signings have been the worst. Johnson should never of been signed for nearly 20 million instead of Arbeloa who only cost about 2.5 million all down to an incompetent manager and Torres attitude has stunk for a while especialy last season when he put country before club and decided to have an operation to save his world cup instead of playing for us. Those are valid reasons for me and alot of others to dislike these two players and I happen to think they have become a drain on the club rather than an assett, Johnson coz he's simply sh*t and Torres because he's always injured, does'nt try and wants to leave first chance he gets. So winde your neck in will you and open your eyes to the reasons am giving.


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Go for it lads!

This debate is a pure Shakespearean master piece.
It's amazing, the post asks you who you want out, you give people your opinion and it's met with people somehow taking it personal simply because it's a different opinion to what they have. I always though a forum was a place to discuss differences of opinion in an adult way amongst each other haha...

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You wont find that on here Reclaim wink


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Originally Posted By: Reclaim The Club
Johnson coz he's simply sh*t and Torres because he's always injured, does'nt try and wants to leave first chance he gets.

Torres has come out and said he wants to leave the club? When did he say that? You sure he said it, and not some journalist in the same mold as that guy from the Times who compared Rafa's first EIGHT games each season with Roy's, while only using data from Rafa's first SIX games (and Rafa still came out ahead anyway)? Come now.

We accept that Torres is not in the right frame of mind to play quality football at the moment. But I suggest you cast your mind back a bit as to who is creating what few goals we are scoring. WBA - Torres scored the only goal. Man Utd - Torres pulled down in the area twice. Goals? 2. Sunderland. Torres 2 assists. Goals? 2. Blackburn. Goals? 2 - one from a set piece (rare for LFC), one off Torres's foot without being accidental. I'll admit we did get one against Blackpool that didn't involve Torres. So ask yourself where we'd be without him? At least 3 more points in the hole is where. Go study the table a bit more.

Torres might not be giving 100%, but to single him out in a squad where that cannot be said of any other player is as pointless as it is stupid. Maybe you're just upset because he's as Spanish as the last manager.

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wind my neck in... good one!

thought we were talking about torres? rambling on about johnson and arbeloa changing the subject lol but anyway, i couldn't really give a f*ck what you think mate and i very much doubt anyone agrees with your ludicrous opinions. you've said ya piece now get back in ya box



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We accept that Torres is not in the right frame of mind to play quality football at the moment. But I suggest you cast your mind back a bit as to who is creating what few goals we are scoring. WBA - Torres scored the only goal. Man Utd - Torres pulled down in the area twice. Goals? 2. Sunderland. Torres 2 assists. Goals? 2. Blackburn. Goals? 2 - one from a set piece (rare for LFC), one off Torres's foot without being accidental. I'll admit we did get one against Blackpool that didn't involve Torres. So ask yourself where we'd be without him? At least 3 more points in the hole is where. Go study the table a bit more.



Totally agree mate. its the point ive been saying all along. If anything the only part missing from torres game this season is goals. Weve scored 9 goals this season in the league, and torres has had a hand in 6 of them.

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We accept that Torres is not in the right frame of mind to play quality football at the moment. But I suggest you cast your mind back a bit as to who is creating what few goals we are scoring. WBA - Torres scored the only goal. Man Utd - Torres pulled down in the area twice. Goals? 2. Sunderland. Torres 2 assists. Goals? 2. Blackburn. Goals? 2 - one from a set piece (rare for LFC), one off Torres's foot without being accidental. I'll admit we did get one against Blackpool that didn't involve Torres. So ask yourself where we'd be without him? At least 3 more points in the hole is where. Go study the table a bit more.



Totally agree mate. its the point ive been saying all along. If anything the only part missing from torres game this season is goals. Weve scored 9 goals this season in the league, and torres has had a hand in 6 of them.


he's clearly taking the p!ss though isn't he



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o ye defo. He shouldnt even be in the squad if thats all hes producing. id rather have babel in meself

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Originally Posted By: want3d
wind my neck in... good one!

thought we were talking about torres? rambling on about johnson and arbeloa changing the subject lol but anyway, i couldn't really give a f*ck what you think mate and i very much doubt anyone agrees with your ludicrous opinions. you've said ya piece now get back in ya box

yeah good one lad, my my how standards amongst our supporters have dropped when a player like Torres who walks around the pitch, sulks and spits his dummy out just because he never had a good world cup which never got him his move is backed to the hilt by so called fans, I now know why our once great Club is where it is in football terms. As for all the things he has contributed this season if he plays up front and we score a goal then any forward is bound to be there or thereabouts in either scoring himself or having a hand in it in probably nine out of ten instances if a goal is scored in open play, just basic common sense really.

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What exactly do you want torres to be doing? Chasing every ball which is no where near him down, constant pressure on there centre backs only to see gerrard and the rest of your team mates sitting off because there to deep and instructed not to. And then when he does get a decent bit of service he's absolutely fcked because he's been chasing down lost causes?

Your full of shiiite mate. Every player has a bad patch, gerrard was fckin awful last year, he walked round like he couldn't be arsed and only jogged when he felt like it. Makes me fckin sick.

Your completely wrong mate, I could understand if he was getting service and wernt running for balls played up to him, but he hasn't and your blind to it. Is it a coincidence we've only scored 9 this season so far.

O ye, you haven't admitted you where wrong about the points that we've got now to what we had in rafas 1st season after the same amount of games

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