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regardless of whos team won istanbul it was rafa in charge and the substitutions that he made at half time not houliers. im not a big rafa fan but he never had us where we are now playing the worst football ive seen at anfield in 15 years. at times i wanted rafa shot but he gone now but still seems to get the blame for everything that goes wrong, rafa has made a lot of sh1t signings but none as bad as poulson and if truth be told we want a manager that will win us the league and sadly roy wont.

Some would argue that Josemi and Lucas were the same if not worse than Poulson, as for a manger who will win us the league no manager is going to win Liverpool Football Club leagues because we dont win leagues no more and when we did it was over 20 years ago, just like Everton and Villa dont win leagues either, not being negative just stating the facts. A manager should only take responsibility for his team when he has all hois own players in it and has moulded the team into playing football his way and I am sorry it takes alot longer than 8 games for that to happen. The job may be to big for Hodgson, it's probably looking that way at the moment but my argument is you still have to give him time to fail, Shanks lost his first two games 3-0 and 4-0 so he would of been well out according to some fans on here, thats why we need to wait until the outcombe before getting shut of the manager.

Think about what you saying for a sec because if,as you say,a manager should not take responsibility for a team until it has only his players in it,would mean all of the blame you lay at Rafa's feet is totally unfounded,so which is it to be?

fair point but hes had a lot more than 8 games weve been poor in all europa games and northampton is another thats just unrealistic. i dont think we will beat blackburn and bolton on the way we are playin its not good enough and his comments after games doesnt help his corner. he very similar to rafa in that if your underpressure or losing a game he doesnt no how to change things as its just player for player. hiddink at chelsea made a instant impact and so did chaz n dave at spurs so it can be done how long do you give him before its too late i certainly would have shut before jan as i dont trust him with signings.

1. Weak, no. I just no alot about how football works on and off the pitch
2. Don't go the game:- season ticket holder mate

3.
-----------------reina

Johnson---carra--agger---kontchesky

-----------poulsen-merieles

kuyt------------gerrard---------cole

-----------------torres

four players are roys buys. Got rid of are two most promising younsgters to fulham to get kontchesky, he signs a crocked joe cole, bought the worst player to wear a juventus shirt, and signs merieles who's a centre midfielder and puts him right mid. And sends aqualani on loan to juventus, and was delighted we where signing jovanovic because he officaily said he wanted him at fulham. Doesn't want to play are best cb (agger) cus he wants hoofers at the back. And re signs aurelio (sick note) So he's regarding the 1st team he's made 6-8 mistakes regarding the 1st team, that's why where in the position where currently in.

The whole question is can a manager be judged after just 8 games and if he can how many managers will be getting sacked if this is the new criteria. What we are seeing now is mostly down to Benitez in my opinion having said that Roy is not helping himself, no matter what he still needs to be given time to turn things round or fail.

And last years team if all fit

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Johnson--carra---agger---aurelio

--------- -masch--Lucas

kuyt----------gerrard-------benayoun

----------------torres

there's not much difference is there reclaim. And I no teams have there injuries but the 1st part of the season we had alot of injuries to torres, Johnson, gerrard was out for a few weeks, benayoun, reira. We where 8th this time last year not 19th

Your forgeting Roy has took on a load of sh*thouses who have all season hid behind the turmoil which has been going on off the pitch. When you have sh*thouse players like we have not even Fergie, Wenger, Mourinho or Shanks will get them to play better if thats there attitude, so you cant blame Hodgson for that, Fernando Torres is living proof that if your hearts not in it you wont play well and you cant blame hodgson for wan*ers like Glen Johnson with defending like he did against Blackpool can you. For what it's worth dont question my intelligence either, local and season ticket holder last 25 years.

Ask yourself why his heart not at it? why he scored 18 goals in prem league alone while injured most of it? now he can't hit barn door? you don't think this has nothing to do with change of manager?

Its not about judging a manager after games. All fans understand that it is a work in progress but the sheer contempt with which Roy treats fans in his post-match interviews is crazy. Match after match he thinks there is nothing wrong with the team,strategies or tactics.
How in the world are we going to improve if we don't acknowledge problems? That is where most fans are not with Roy , he is just lost after the first 5 minutes, its like there is no plan B,C,D like a Wenger,Mourinho,Guaridola or Benitez...