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We had supposedly a good side our against Northampton, Greek, reina, babel, Lucas, jova, agger. If there's not a leader out of them 1st team players to guide the youngsters through then where in deep [oops]

Being a senior player and being a leader are different things, though. Of the names you mentioned only Reina strikes me as being a leader, and he's in goal where he can't shout at the forwards to keep their shape and not lose heart.

you mean at the 'forward' singular at least he would hear it in spanish

you referring to Pacheco, then? no one else in that side speaks Spanish (that I'm aware, though I may have missed someone). the galling thing for me is that Lucas and Babel were both terrible in that game (and since - Babel was hopeless for the reserves just last week, ffs!), yet they both saw action against Everton ahead of Pacheco, Spearing, Shelvey and Wilson. Babel came on as a sub, so you can't even argue he was used to 'protect a youngster from the rough reality of 90 minutes of the derby' (I didn't see the start of the game, but what I saw was much less hostile than last season's encounter, maybe because Everton were too busy taking shots on goal prior to Lucas's departure).

Kind of sums it up I didn't realise how w rong hodgson is for a big club. Most managers would come in and would have to be held back from making changes and trying to dominate things .I think it's also his age/personality he is far to lenient. If you read cole on the lfc net site 7 year itch, he talks at the end of the usual blah blah about players have to keep ' buying into the way he wants us to play', There is something wrong there either that is code by joe cole saying we dont like the way he makes us play (which for me is reality) or he's saying that they ahve a choice of playing how he likes them to play) I don't understand it really i don't. Either you play the way the manager wants you to play or you don't play. This manager is to weak to drop players who don't listen to him. And even if he did he would have to drop 8 of them because no decent footballer would play the way hodgson wanted. Eitherway he is so wrong for liverpool its incredible

When we started our slide I thought to myself that Roy needed to bin a few first team players and stick on a few of the guys who were doing well in the Europa games. It was clear they had no hangups about playing for him, while the senior guys didn't seem to take to his ideas as easily, probably because they had an idea of how good the team could be when played with different tactics. But he didn't do that, and if anything has gone in the other direction. If your first team isn't hitting its stride, then surely you change it? Or you change your approach, or you change something. Anything! We we've gone through the full cycle back to Lucas, still have Cole on the wing when he's only been good when played in the hole, still have Meireles as RM when it's clearly not a position he can play, and still have Agger as reserve left back. Shocking. Hogdson's personal inertia has removed any momentum we gained from sacking Rafa.

Hes going on about resting players...play these guys the only way you get back in to form is playing. I work 5 days a week...does work rest me every other thursday? haha

Reina, Jones, Hansen, Konchesky, Aurelio, Kyrgiakos, Skrtel, Wilson, Carragher, Kelly, Spearing, Poulsen, Shelvey, Maxi, Babel, Jovanovic, Pacheco, Eccleston, Cole, Ngog

Not a winning squad specially away against Napoli, this is our best
------------------Reina----------------------
Kelly-------Carra-------Skrtel--------Aurelio
-----------------Spearing--------------------
Babel-------Shelvey------Cole-------Jovanovic
------------------N'gog----------------------

bit unrelated but : why when i try and check the liverpool next match section on this site i am redirected to the sky match centre which details the 'important' european matches and not ours or at least you have to go further into sky (which i don't like doing and if i am not mistaken is owned by the same person who owns the scum) I had to resort to going to the official lfc(crisis what crisis ) site to see the time of the next kick off against napoli

Yeah.

I mean, what we're talking about is the team that's currently 19th in the Premier League going up against the team that's currently 4th in Serie A (ahead of the likes of Juventus and Roma), and we're resting our best players.

If we lose, and Utrecht beat Steaua, we'll find ourselves third in group K.

I'm not exactly filled with confidence right now. OK, I get there's an argument about focusing on the Premier League, but getting a drubbing in other competitions does not usually help.